I beg tech companies to please stop naming things “canvas”.
ACM/IEEE should really run a name allocation service
Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT
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Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT
#52This is cool, but I wish it were integrated into tools already used for coding and writing rather than having it be a separate app. This also demonstrates the type of things Google could do with Gemini integrated into Google Docs if they step up their game a bit. Honestly I’m scratching my head on OpenAI’s desire to double down on building out their consumer B2C use cases rather than truly focussing on being the infr…
An LLM named Duet has been in Google docs for 17 months now! https://workspace.google.com/blog/product-announcements/duet...
I've been using it for about a year.
Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT
#53Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
I believe it's not solving a real problem. I believe that the human skills of reasoning, logical thinking, etc. make it possible for any able minded human to do the things I just mentioned, given time and money is provided. AI can't do that. Let's call that process "programming". It cant do programming. It pretends to program.
You are entitled to interpret the word "programming" in multiple different ways depending on the context of the conversation. What you propose here as "programming" is valid but not comprehensive of what everyone may think of when considering the "programming" process. By many definitions of "programming", these AI tools are indeed programming. In the same way, many definitions of "reasoning, ..." may include the AI…
These AI tools are able to do a small subset of what a professional human is able to do, with greatly reduced flexibility, e.g. tasks like leetcode where there is an abundance of concentrated training data.
I would bet that the current paradigm in ChatGPT will never be able to replace a minimally competent human at real world programming - the kind of programs people actually pay for. Let’s see.
Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT
#55OpenAI seem to be slowly moving towards building an entire OS(or any other form of walled garden) that will be filled with LLM powered applications.
Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT
#56Seems to mostly be a UI enhancement? Or is there deeper functionality?
Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT
#57Excuse my possible ignorance but I had a question: Does ChatGPT have 'up to date knowledge' in terms of latest versions of software?
When I have used it I asked it to help me with VueJS but whilst it knew about version 3 (which is substantially different to V2) it didn't know the very latest version.
Isn't this going to be problematic if it's trying to help code but has outdated information? Won't this result in more code being written/tied to older languages/framework versions?
In my experience, because GPT outputs code tied to particular versions of software, I use those as it's far quicker to copy/paste/edit than reading the latest docs, where GPT is absolutely useless as it simply doesn't know about the latest code and isn't able to produce working snippets.
So the real deal would be if GPT knows about the latest software instantly the moment it's published (ingesting docs data, any stackoverflow Q/A's etc).
Here is what GPT 4o-mini told me
P: can you list me the latest verisons of ALL major languages such as python, node etc. and the latest versions of typescript, angular, vuejs etc
R:
> Python: 3.12.0 (released in October 2023)
> Node.js: 20.5.0 (released in September 2023)
> Java: 21 (released in September 2023)
> C#: 12 (part of .NET 8, released in November 2023)
> Go: 1.21.0 (released in August 2023)
> Ruby: 3.2.2 (released in August 2023)
> PHP: 8.3.0 (released in August 2023)
> Rust: 1.72.0 (released in September 2023)
> TypeScript: 5.3.0 (released in September 2023)
> Angular: 16.2.0 (released in September 2023)
> React: 18.2.0 (released in June 2023)
> Vue.js: 3.3.0 (released in September 2023)Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah I do. Playing with it right now. It's cool. https://i.imgur.com/R5PQQoi.png
How/where were you notified that you got it?
I wasn't. I saw this post on HN, opened a new tab for ChatGPT, and saw that I had access to the model. I assume it's rolling out incrementally over a few hours to all paid users.
Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT
#59This is cool, but I wish it were integrated into tools already used for coding and writing rather than having it be a separate app. This also demonstrates the type of things Google could do with Gemini integrated into Google Docs if they step up their game a bit. Honestly I’m scratching my head on OpenAI’s desire to double down on building out their consumer B2C use cases rather than truly focussing on being the infr…
75% of OpenAI's revenue is coming from their consumer business - the better question is the long term viability of their public API.
But if they believe they're going to reach AGI, it makes no sense to pigeonhole themselves to the interface of ChatGPT. Seems like a pretty sensible decision to maintain both.
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#60Funny timing. StackBlitz announced Bolt.new ( https://bolt.new/ ) today with multi-file edit, emulated filesystem, arbitrary npm installs, and is open source. I feel ChatGPT is still chasing after Claude 3.5 artifact.
The symbol and Blitz kind of give Nazi vibes. Did they think the naming through?