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Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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An LLM named Duet has been in Google docs for 17 months now! https://workspace.google.com/blog/product-announcements/duet... I've been using it for about a year.

never figured out on how to activate it in my workspace

google's approach to shipping products is puzzling. It's like they don't care if anyone uses them at all

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Mixed feelings about this: clearly this is meant to match one of the killer features of Claude. I like using Claude, and I'm also a big supporter of Anthropic - not just because it's an underdog, but due to its responsible and ethical corporate governance model[1], which stands in stark contrast to OpenAI. It's worrying to see ChatGPT close one of the gaps between it and Claude. [1] https://www.anthropic.com/news/the…

The last thing we need is a more restrictive for profit company lobbying on behalf of the powerful to make sharing ai weights illegal.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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The most surprising part of this announcement was the team who worked on this — more people worked on and contributed to this than many startups. There are 16 people working on this project!! If each was paid $300k (that's a minimum...) and they spent a year on this, it'd make it a $5M project...

1- very unlikely they spent a year on just this 2- they are certainly paid more as TC

right so it probably events out to $4-5M for a feature like this? Still surprisingly to me how expensive features like this are to build

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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This means you're a great writer — congrats! I'm a terrible writer, and this kind of crutch is really useful. Other people in our lab (from China, Korea, etc.) also find this kind of thing useful for working / communicating quickly

Well, I've just read back through some of your comments and I say that ain't so! Write honestly. Write the way you write. Use your own flow, make your own grammatical wobbles, whatever they are. Express yourself authentically. Don't let an AI do this to you.

Aw thanks! I at least have the benefit of being a fluent writer.

For lots of East Asian researchers it's really embarrassing for them to send an email riddled with typos, so they spend a LOT of time making their emails nice.

I like that tools like this can lift their burden

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Mixed feelings about this: clearly this is meant to match one of the killer features of Claude. I like using Claude, and I'm also a big supporter of Anthropic - not just because it's an underdog, but due to its responsible and ethical corporate governance model[1], which stands in stark contrast to OpenAI. It's worrying to see ChatGPT close one of the gaps between it and Claude. [1] https://www.anthropic.com/news/the…

> clearly this is meant to match one of the killer features of Claude.

where does Claude have a canvas like interface?

I'm only seeing https://claude.ai/chat and I would love to know.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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post #4

This is cool, but I wish it were integrated into tools already used for coding and writing rather than having it be a separate app. This also demonstrates the type of things Google could do with Gemini integrated into Google Docs if they step up their game a bit. Honestly I’m scratching my head on OpenAI’s desire to double down on building out their consumer B2C use cases rather than truly focussing on being the infr…

> Honestly I’m scratching my head on OpenAI’s desire to double down on building out their consumer B2C use cases rather than truly focussing on being the infrastructure/API provider for other services to plug into I think it's because LLMs (and to some extent other modalities) tend to be "winner takes all." OpenAI doesn't have a long term moat, their data and architecture is not wildly better than xAI, Google, MS, Me…

> If they don't secure their position as #1 Chatbot I think they will eventually become #2, then #3, etc.

But can they do it at all? It's not like they are like early Google vs other search engines.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An LLM named Duet has been in Google docs for 17 months now! https://workspace.google.com/blog/product-announcements/duet... I've been using it for about a year.

never figured out on how to activate it in my workspace

Same here. I feel like Google's products have become such a labyrinth of features, settings, integrations, separate (but not really) products, that navigating them requires an expert. Sadly, I don't see a way back - each new additional feature or product is just bolted on top and adds more complexity. Given the corporate structure of Google, there's zero chance of an org-wide restructuring of the labyrinth.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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post #13

Do they not understand that the example text they are using in the first image is so laughably banal that it makes an entire segment of its potential audience not want to engage at all? Shoot me in the face if my own writing is ever that bad. ETA: just to be clear... I am not a great writer. Or a bad one. But this is a particular kind of bad . The kind we should all try to avoid.

This means you're a great writer — congrats! I'm a terrible writer, and this kind of crutch is really useful. Other people in our lab (from China, Korea, etc.) also find this kind of thing useful for working / communicating quickly

you're not at all a terrible writer... although you do overuse ellipses in your comments.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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post #117

Do they not understand that the example text they are using in the first image is so laughably banal that it makes an entire segment of its potential audience not want to engage at all? Shoot me in the face if my own writing is ever that bad. ETA: just to be clear... I am not a great writer. Or a bad one. But this is a particular kind of bad . The kind we should all try to avoid.

I thought the same thing: the “blog post” in the example image is an example of the absolute trash that’s being spewed onto the internet by these tools. 10+ sentences and yet somehow nothing actually said.

Well, the UI has slider for length, so there is that.
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