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Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Post by wenc »

cj wrote: post #4

This is cool, but I wish it were integrated into tools already used for coding and writing rather than having it be a separate app. This also demonstrates the type of things Google could do with Gemini integrated into Google Docs if they step up their game a bit. Honestly I’m scratching my head on OpenAI’s desire to double down on building out their consumer B2C use cases rather than truly focussing on being the infr…

> This also demonstrates the type of things Google could do with Gemini integrated into Google Docs if they step up their game a bit.

This is exactly what Google’s NotebookLM does. It’s (currently) free and it reads your Google Docs and does RAG on them.

https://notebooklm.google/

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Post by leetharris »

cj wrote: post #4

This is cool, but I wish it were integrated into tools already used for coding and writing rather than having it be a separate app. This also demonstrates the type of things Google could do with Gemini integrated into Google Docs if they step up their game a bit. Honestly I’m scratching my head on OpenAI’s desire to double down on building out their consumer B2C use cases rather than truly focussing on being the infr…

> Honestly I’m scratching my head on OpenAI’s desire to double down on building out their consumer B2C use cases rather than truly focussing on being the infrastructure/API provider for other services to plug into

I think it's because LLMs (and to some extent other modalities) tend to be "winner takes all." OpenAI doesn't have a long term moat, their data and architecture is not wildly better than xAI, Google, MS, Meta, etc.

If they don't secure their position as #1 Chatbot I think they will eventually become #2, then #3, etc.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Post by bedobi »

lionkor wrote: post #17

Here's an idea: If AI like this is so brilliant and can think for itself, why don't we just tell it to come up with its own next iteration? Surely if it can write code for medical devices, cars, planes, etc. (where no doubt junior engineers are extensively using it), then why not AI? Cant we just tell ChatGPT to make e.g. TensorFlow faster, better, cleaner? Why do people put in so much work anymore, if the AI is so d…

shhh don't ask legitimate questions! only hype now!

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Post by throwgfgfd25 »

wilde wrote: post #18
throwgfgfd25 wrote: post #7

Do they not understand that the example text they are using in the first image is so laughably banal that it makes an entire segment of its potential audience not want to engage at all? Shoot me in the face if my own writing is ever that bad. ETA: just to be clear... I am not a great writer. Or a bad one. But this is a particular kind of bad . The kind we should all try to avoid.

TBF it looks like it’s intended as a “before” image but yes suspect the “after” isn’t much better

Is it? I thought that was the draft, as a result of the dialogue in the sidebar. If I am wrong then OK!

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Post by mvdtnz »

throwgfgfd25 wrote: post #7

Do they not understand that the example text they are using in the first image is so laughably banal that it makes an entire segment of its potential audience not want to engage at all? Shoot me in the face if my own writing is ever that bad. ETA: just to be clear... I am not a great writer. Or a bad one. But this is a particular kind of bad . The kind we should all try to avoid.

That exact banality has somehow made them into a 150 billion dollar business and darling of hacker news.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Post by mmaunder »

scop wrote: post #14

I'm really happy to see ChatGPT doing this. The idea of a canvas made me really enjoy using Claude as I felt it to be the (so far) most "appropriate interface" to AI Chatbots as you are often doing two unique things in an AI chat: - holding in your mind a "thing" (i.e. some code) - talking about a "thing" (i.e. walking through the code) The same applies to non-code tasks as well. The ability to segregate the actual "…

Have you used it?

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Post by throwgfgfd25 »

yawnxyz wrote: post #13
throwgfgfd25 wrote: post #7

Do they not understand that the example text they are using in the first image is so laughably banal that it makes an entire segment of its potential audience not want to engage at all? Shoot me in the face if my own writing is ever that bad. ETA: just to be clear... I am not a great writer. Or a bad one. But this is a particular kind of bad . The kind we should all try to avoid.

This means you're a great writer — congrats! I'm a terrible writer, and this kind of crutch is really useful. Other people in our lab (from China, Korea, etc.) also find this kind of thing useful for working / communicating quickly

Well, I've just read back through some of your comments and I say that ain't so!

Write honestly. Write the way you write. Use your own flow, make your own grammatical wobbles, whatever they are. Express yourself authentically.

Don't let an AI do this to you.

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Post by mmaunder »

cj wrote: post #4

This is cool, but I wish it were integrated into tools already used for coding and writing rather than having it be a separate app. This also demonstrates the type of things Google could do with Gemini integrated into Google Docs if they step up their game a bit. Honestly I’m scratching my head on OpenAI’s desire to double down on building out their consumer B2C use cases rather than truly focussing on being the infr…

Have you used Canvas?

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Post by lionkor »

bedobi wrote: post #23
lionkor wrote: post #17

Here's an idea: If AI like this is so brilliant and can think for itself, why don't we just tell it to come up with its own next iteration? Surely if it can write code for medical devices, cars, planes, etc. (where no doubt junior engineers are extensively using it), then why not AI? Cant we just tell ChatGPT to make e.g. TensorFlow faster, better, cleaner? Why do people put in so much work anymore, if the AI is so d…

shhh don't ask legitimate questions! only hype now!

This looks amazing. Simply incredible what we are able to do. I'm ready for the next industrial revolution -- It's happening, now!

Re: Canvas is a new way to write and code with ChatGPT

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Post by thornewolf »

lionkor wrote: post #17

Here's an idea: If AI like this is so brilliant and can think for itself, why don't we just tell it to come up with its own next iteration? Surely if it can write code for medical devices, cars, planes, etc. (where no doubt junior engineers are extensively using it), then why not AI? Cant we just tell ChatGPT to make e.g. TensorFlow faster, better, cleaner? Why do people put in so much work anymore, if the AI is so d…

I believe you are attacking a strawman here.
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