Reminder that Nvidia is still the only company making any money out of the "AI revolution".
"When there is a gold rush, sell shovels"
They started the gold rush.
Nvidia releases NVLM 1.0 72B open weight model
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Re: Nvidia releases NVLM 1.0 72B open weight model
#32I think the only relevant part to note here is that this model showed improved text-only performance after multimodal training. Wonder if this translates to Llama models also ? Is it possible to extend Llama 3.1 405b with multi-modal training to create another SOTA large model ?
Llama-3-V models do that, but are not published.
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#33It has a non-commercial cc-by-nc-4.0 license, I would guess the only way to use this in production is to use Nvidias data centers to host it? Or are there other ways?
Not a lawyer, not legal advice, but... the legal status quo is that neural network outputs are not copyrightable. They are currently considered not made by humans nor considered a derivative work from the training material / network weights (assuming it's not regurgitating copyrighted material verbatim). The cc-by-nc-4.0 license applies to the network weights. The only thing non-commercial about the license is that i…
It's an interesting question indeed!
Creative Commons themselves write at https://creativecommons.org/faq/#can-i-apply-a-creative-comm... :
"Can I apply a Creative Commons license to software? We recommend against using Creative Commons licenses for software. Instead, we strongly encourage you to use one of the very good software licenses which are already available."
Of course, LLM weights aren't traditional software...
Re: Nvidia releases NVLM 1.0 72B open weight model
#34It has a non-commercial cc-by-nc-4.0 license, I would guess the only way to use this in production is to use Nvidias data centers to host it? Or are there other ways?
Not a lawyer, not legal advice, but... the legal status quo is that neural network outputs are not copyrightable. They are currently considered not made by humans nor considered a derivative work from the training material / network weights (assuming it's not regurgitating copyrighted material verbatim). The cc-by-nc-4.0 license applies to the network weights. The only thing non-commercial about the license is that i…
Even selling the network weights shouldn't matter, since there's no copyright.
The problem is if you happen to sign any agreement with NVIDIA in order to get the weights. The problem is whatever contracts you may be bound by.
Re: Nvidia releases NVLM 1.0 72B open weight model
#35Reminder that Nvidia is still the only company making any money out of the "AI revolution".
i have yet to hear of anyone actually using AI for something properly only exception im excited about is the non-main characters from video games, where a lot of the random NPCs, can now actually bring some more fun to the game.
I have seen plenty of very good internal AI Demos which we are adding to our products. From GenAI stuff, to image analysis, lightweight agents who answer proper questions.
I used chatgpt 3 days ago to generate a script for me. Saved me probably an hour too.
We use it also in my startup for tasks which we wouldn't even tried without ML models because the quality of old libraries were to bad. Like pdf catalog to text, image classification and segmentation.
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#36Re: Nvidia releases NVLM 1.0 72B open weight model
#37Reminder that Nvidia is still the only company making any money out of the "AI revolution".
Its an revolution. Don't undersell this.
There was never ever any technology like LLMs close to what chatgpt and co can do in regards of understanding random human input.
My startup doesn't need to make money with it directly, but for us it increased our data quality on text and images.
I'm also quite happy to pay 10-20$ per month for random things LLMs do quite well for different use cases like creating some scripts etc.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
They started the gold rush.
I'm pretty sure OpenAI started it, they just used NVIDIA shovels to dig the first mines.
Nvidia created CUDA and seeded the ML industry for a decade before chatgpt. They aren't given enough credit for their foresight and strategy. Most companies would have choked the community to death with greed before it ever took off.
There is a reason why CUDA works on every NV gpu but ROCm support is spotty at best and only guaranteed on data center GPUs.
Re: Nvidia releases NVLM 1.0 72B open weight model
#39Reminder that Nvidia is still the only company making any money out of the "AI revolution".
I'm pretty sure https://www.topazlabs.com/ is also making money with the AI revolution.
Also Klarna threw out 700 people, they probably make money with AI.
And i found this article: https://www.ft.com/content/a9a192e3-bfbc-461e-a4f3-112e63d0b...
Re: Nvidia releases NVLM 1.0 72B open weight model
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm pretty sure OpenAI started it, they just used NVIDIA shovels to dig the first mines.
Nvidia created CUDA and seeded the ML industry for a decade before chatgpt. They aren't given enough credit for their foresight and strategy. Most companies would have choked the community to death with greed before it ever took off. There is a reason why CUDA works on every NV gpu but ROCm support is spotty at best and only guaranteed on data center GPUs.
My analogy still holds. NVIDIA just created good shovels that are useful in both the garden and in a gold mine.
AMD and Intel insisted on selling only flimsy garden shovels.