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Nvidia releases NVLM 1.0 72B open weight model

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Re: Nvidia releases NVLM 1.0 72B open weight model

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Post by dindresto »

orlp wrote: post #15
keyboardsamurai wrote: post #9

It has a non-commercial cc-by-nc-4.0 license, I would guess the only way to use this in production is to use Nvidias data centers to host it? Or are there other ways?

Not a lawyer, not legal advice, but... the legal status quo is that neural network outputs are not copyrightable. They are currently considered not made by humans nor considered a derivative work from the training material / network weights (assuming it's not regurgitating copyrighted material verbatim). The cc-by-nc-4.0 license applies to the network weights. The only thing non-commercial about the license is that i…

First time I read this interpreation regarding CC-BY-NC model weights, are there any sources to back it?

Re: Nvidia releases NVLM 1.0 72B open weight model

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Post by lynx23 »

indigo945 wrote: post #20
lynx23 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, I never said that. But you already know that. The robot in this case is me holding a smart phone.

Is that faster than just determining by touch what type of garment something is? Or is this about sorting by color?

Its for sorting by color/print. Some things you remember instantly by touch, others not so much.

Re: Nvidia releases NVLM 1.0 72B open weight model

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Post by PeterStuer »

Refusing23 wrote: post #12
optimalsolver wrote: post #6

Reminder that Nvidia is still the only company making any money out of the "AI revolution".

i have yet to hear of anyone actually using AI for something properly only exception im excited about is the non-main characters from video games, where a lot of the random NPCs, can now actually bring some more fun to the game.

I run in production a system that uses LLM translation and summerization from hundreds of sources in dozens of languages. Users are extremely satisfied by the results that are far cheaper and far higher quality than what was available before

Re: Nvidia releases NVLM 1.0 72B open weight model

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Post by SonOfLilit »

orlp wrote: post #15
keyboardsamurai wrote: post #9

It has a non-commercial cc-by-nc-4.0 license, I would guess the only way to use this in production is to use Nvidias data centers to host it? Or are there other ways?

Not a lawyer, not legal advice, but... the legal status quo is that neural network outputs are not copyrightable. They are currently considered not made by humans nor considered a derivative work from the training material / network weights (assuming it's not regurgitating copyrighted material verbatim). The cc-by-nc-4.0 license applies to the network weights. The only thing non-commercial about the license is that i…

Not a lawyer, but work with lawyers a lot, and this type of rules-lawyering doesn't tend to work in the legal profession. Consult a lawyer before trying any of this.

Re: Nvidia releases NVLM 1.0 72B open weight model

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Post by dartos »

Der_Einzige wrote: post #13
optimalsolver wrote: post #6

Reminder that Nvidia is still the only company making any money out of the "AI revolution".

Wrong Midjourney is profitable. All the acquired startups (i.e. Streamlit or MosaicML) who made millions per employee "made money" for the people who cared.

Midjourney is one, but the others are not. Plenty of people “made money” at Twitter, but the company is a money pit.

OP was likely talking about profitability.

FWIW I wouldn’t really count streamlit as an ai company

Re: Nvidia releases NVLM 1.0 72B open weight model

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Post by 1dom »

lynx23 wrote: post #22
indigo945 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is that faster than just determining by touch what type of garment something is? Or is this about sorting by color?

Its for sorting by color/print. Some things you remember instantly by touch, others not so much.

This sounds really cool - so you point it at individual items of clothing and it reads out the type of clothing and colour?

Do you have any more info or links about the setup?

Re: Nvidia releases NVLM 1.0 72B open weight model

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Post by rd42 »

I think the only relevant part to note here is that this model showed improved text-only performance after multimodal training. Wonder if this translates to Llama models also ? Is it possible to extend Llama 3.1 405b with multi-modal training to create another SOTA large model ?

Re: Nvidia releases NVLM 1.0 72B open weight model

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Post by saagarjha »

dartos wrote: post #25
Der_Einzige wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wrong Midjourney is profitable. All the acquired startups (i.e. Streamlit or MosaicML) who made millions per employee "made money" for the people who cared.

Midjourney is one, but the others are not. Plenty of people “made money” at Twitter, but the company is a money pit. OP was likely talking about profitability. FWIW I wouldn’t really count streamlit as an ai company

Twitter was (mildly) profitable.

Re: Nvidia releases NVLM 1.0 72B open weight model

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Post by tourmalinetaco »

Refusing23 wrote: post #12
optimalsolver wrote: post #6

Reminder that Nvidia is still the only company making any money out of the "AI revolution".

i have yet to hear of anyone actually using AI for something properly only exception im excited about is the non-main characters from video games, where a lot of the random NPCs, can now actually bring some more fun to the game.

Claiming no one is using MLMs “properly” despite the various scientific and industrial use cases (vision systems, robots, protein folding, drug simulation, etc) while being “excited” for something as pathetically trivial as a text generator with a text-to-speech tacked on for your mass-produced open world games. Truly peak HN.
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