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Re: OpenAI DevDay 2024 live blog

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It's incredible that people are talking about the downfall of software engineering - now, at many companies, hundreds of call center roles will be replaced by a few engineering roles. With image fine-tuning, now we can replace radiologists with software engineers, etc. etc.

People have been trying to replace radiologists for several years now. Maybe they'll get there, but it doesn't seem to be easy.

Radiologists will not be replaced. They will just have better tools.

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I've never seen a company publishing consistently groundbreaking features at such a speed like this one. I really wonder how their teams work. It's unprecedented at what i've seen in 15 years software

I wonder how much they use their own products internally to speed up development and decisions.

They have roles on their “Leverage Engineering” team which appears to be exactly this

https://openai.com/careers/full-stack-software-engineer-leve...

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I understand the Realtime API voice novelty, and the techonological achievement it is, but I don't see it from the product point of view. It looks like one of those startups finding a solution before knowing the problem. The two examples shown in the DevDay are the things I don't really want to do in the future. I don't want to talk to anybody, and I don't want to wait for their answer in a human form. That's why I o…

> I understand the Realtime API voice novelty, and the techonological achievement it is, but I don't see it from the product point of view. It looks like one of those startups finding a solution before knowing the problem. The market for realistic voice agents is huge, but also very fragmented. Customer service is the obvious example, large companies employ tens of thousands of customer service phone agents, and a la…

Hopefully, it won’t cause a plethora of nuisance phone calls. As the cost tends to zero, then it will be much easier to spam people; even more so than now.

Re: OpenAI DevDay 2024 live blog

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It's incredible that people are talking about the downfall of software engineering - now, at many companies, hundreds of call center roles will be replaced by a few engineering roles. With image fine-tuning, now we can replace radiologists with software engineers, etc. etc.

What's the role of the software engineer besides setting this up? Your example makes me think it will merely moves QA into essentially providing countless cases and then updating them over time to improve the AIs data. And is it really gonna be cheaper than human support? What's gonna happen when we will find out (see the impossibility to reach a human when interacting with many companies alredy) this is gonna bring…

More than a majority of a software engineer’s time is spent on bug triage, reproducing bugs, simulating constituents in a test, and debugging fixes.

Doesn’t matter what the computer becomes — AI, AGI or God-incarnate — there’s always a role between that and the end-user. That role today is called software engineer. Tomorrow, it’ll be whatever whatever. Perhaps paid the same or less or more. Doesn’t matter.

There’s always an intermediary to deal with the shit.

Hmm, I wonder if that’s the roles priests & the clergy have been playing all this while. Except, maybe humanity is the shit God (as an end user) has to deal with

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I see what you mean, but I think that "workplace" specifically refers to the context of the workplace, so that an employer cannot use AI to monitor the employees, even if they have been pressured to agree to such a monitoring. I think this is unrelated to "commercially offering services which can detect emotions". But then I don't get the spirit of that limitation, as it should be just as applicable to TVs listening…

> I think that > I think this > I don't get the spirit of that limitation > I guess that In a nutshell, this uncertainty is why firms are going to slow-roll EU rollout of AI and, for designated gatekeepers, other features. Until there is a body of litigated cases to use as reference, companies would be placing themselves on the hook for tremendous fines, not to mention the distraction of the executives. Which, not ma…

Companies like OpenAI definitely have the resources to let some lawyers analyze the situation and at this point it should be clear to them if they can or can't do this. It's far more likely that they're holding back because of limitations in hardware resources.

I use those words because I've never read any of the points in the EU AIA.

Re: OpenAI DevDay 2024 live blog

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Using structured outputs for generative ui is such a cool idea does anyone know some cool web demos related to this ?

I just had an evil thought: once AIs are fast enough, it would be possible to create a “dynamic” user interface on the fly using an AI. Instead of Java or C# code running in an event loop processing mouse clicks, in principle we could have a chat bot generate the UI elements in a script like WPF or plain HTML and process user mouse and keyboard input events! If you squint at it, this is what chat bots do now, except…

Karpathy talks about this in https://karpathy.medium.com/software-2-0-a64152b37c35

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> The Realtime API improves this by streaming audio inputs and outputs directly, enabling more natural conversational experiences. It can also handle interruptions automatically, much like Advanced Voice Mode in ChatGPT. > Under the hood, the Realtime API lets you create a persistent WebSocket connection to exchange messages with GPT-4o. The API supports function calling(opens in a new window), which makes it possibl…

It's incredible that people are talking about the downfall of software engineering - now, at many companies, hundreds of call center roles will be replaced by a few engineering roles. With image fine-tuning, now we can replace radiologists with software engineers, etc. etc.

A radiologist makes critical life-or-death judgements. An algorithm will not, and should not, replace them.

Re: OpenAI DevDay 2024 live blog

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People have been trying to replace radiologists for several years now. Maybe they'll get there, but it doesn't seem to be easy.

Radiologists will not be replaced. They will just have better tools.

the _role_ of radiologists isn’t going away, but as with software engineers, better tools means there are fewer needed to serve the same patient population. So it’s highly likely that there is going to be displacement within that industry as well.

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It's incredible that people are talking about the downfall of software engineering - now, at many companies, hundreds of call center roles will be replaced by a few engineering roles. With image fine-tuning, now we can replace radiologists with software engineers, etc. etc.

A radiologist makes critical life-or-death judgements. An algorithm will not, and should not, replace them.

A modern insulin pump also uses algorithms to make critical life or death decisions, should we replace these with doctors?

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This was first done by deepseek. [1] [1]: https://platform.deepseek.com/api-docs/news/news0802/

Haven’t tried Deepseek - how do they compare to OaI?

Aider benchmarks them great for coding... super slow token generation. Much cheaper but once you're used to the speed... it's too slow.
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