The real problem seems to be with the testing and grading system, and the fact that some people game them to receive some title or other credentials. If one is really interested in learning to write well, or to understand what good writing is, then this particular teacher might still have liked their job. That approach probably doesn't make much money though.
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AI does have the potential to be a private tutor. Think that scene from Star Trek (2009)[1] or The Young Ladies Illustrated Primer.
Companies are making 11-12 figure bets that AI will be huge, so this comment isn't out of line.
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#33That said, most professors still force students to write code on paper with no autocorrect, google, or even access to the reference documentation which seems counter productive. I remember when people were calling auto completing text editors cheating, yet despite how much we accept auto complete or how many professional developers use AI tools, were still forcing college students to use pen and paper and trying to memorize syntax and all the functions of a library, all because professors can't be decent enough to even allow access to notes or the basic language or library docs.
The AI or the documentation isn't going to solve your problems. Its enabling you to not memorize an entire language that you might not even work with in your career. Do I think their is people who can and will misuse the technology, yep you bet ya. But we need to stop forcing people to suffer due to the people who disregard the rules.
You can also tell a major difference between someone who just uses AI to write the essay or paper, and someone who uses it to develop better ideas or arguments and develop multiple ways of phrasing something. LLM's are nothing new, just like how computer vision has been good for a long time.(see opencv, YOLO, and DARKNET)
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can already see it in people who cannot navigate their automobile without google maps or some equivalent.
I don't really see that as a bad thing. Einstein famously didn't memorize phone numbers because you could look it up in book. Quick external lookups are a huge productivity boost since you don't have to spend all the time memorizing something.
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#35Is this all bad? The conversational model of learning, the dialectic, can be better for learning than just reading walls of text. Instant access to a lot of information, in a more conversational model. I've found it to be more natural. Are we reaching the stage where every kid has a "Young Lady's Illustrated Primer" from the Diamond Age? That would be a good thing.
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#37As long as LLM companies can hang on for another 15 years or so, there will be an entire generation of humans who will be as utterly incapable of living without LLMs in the same way that most people in developed countries are incapable of growing their own food. Intellectual lock-in will be their moat.
You can already see it in people who cannot navigate their automobile without google maps or some equivalent.
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#39My experience is that writing things out always improves my understanding of the subject. It's similar to forcing yourself to write a proof in mathematics, to verify your understanding. The formalism is hugely helpful.
If the result of chatgpt is even more kids skating through life without really picking up these skills... it may have tragic consequences. Learning to think well is the single most important thing I got from education. I would argue that improvements in human thinking -- via philosophy, logic, mathematics, the scientific method, and yes, literacy -- have made a huge difference in human lives over the past few thousand years.
Not that chatgpt would be the root cause. Chatgpt would just be a symptom of a much bigger problem.
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can already see it in people who cannot navigate their automobile without google maps or some equivalent.
I don't really see that as a bad thing. Einstein famously didn't memorize phone numbers because you could look it up in book. Quick external lookups are a huge productivity boost since you don't have to spend all the time memorizing something.
> That any civilized human being in this nineteenth century should not be aware that the earth travelled round the sun appeared to be to me such an extraordinary fact that I could hardly realize it.
> "You appear to be astonished," he said, smiling at my expression of surprise. "Now that I do know it I shall do my best to forget it."
> "To forget it!"
> "You see," he explained, "I consider that a man's brain originally is like a little empty attic, and you have to stock it with such furniture as you choose..."
> "But the Solar System!" I protested.
> "What the deuce is it to me?" he interrupted impatiently; "you say that we go round the sun. If we went round the moon it would not make a pennyworth of difference to me or to my work."