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TSMC execs allegedly dismissed OpenAI CEO Sam Altman as 'podcasting bro'

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Re: TSMC execs allegedly dismissed OpenAI CEO Sam Altman as 'podcasting bro'

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SpaceX needed NASA money. Where does Altmann get $7 trillion dollars

From his non profit :D

If they pay 7 trillion dollars, they certainly won't make a profit for a long time.

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US is already throwing CHIPS dollars at Intel whose latest chips are made by...TSMC https://www.pcworld.com/article/2355435/intels-lunar-lake-is...

1) the CHIPS money Intel received is going to the Foundry, not the products group; 2) that's not Intel's latest chips, these are: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/details/pro... https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/details/pro... One fully made by Intel Foundry, the other with at least some considerable TSMC parts (which isn't unexpected for the market segment it's in and the fact it was a…

Right from Wiki my friend

    Lunar Lake is the codename for Core Ultra Series 2 mobile processors designed by Intel, released on September 24, 2024.
    
    Manufactured by: TSMC
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Lake

It's September 27 round abouts here so I'm not sure it gets more recent than that.

Re: TSMC execs allegedly dismissed OpenAI CEO Sam Altman as 'podcasting bro'

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Grifters gonna grift- My nerd hype died as I used gpt4+ and Claude 3.5+ whatever for coding tasks and realized if a human somewhere in the training data hadn't already solved a programming problem/wrote code for a solution the LLM's are useless for said problem. They're useful as an assistant/junior coder to do repetitive tasks/things you/other humans already have already done tho. BUT that's not going to revolutioni…

I was watching Alien last night and as they talked with Mother it was refreshing to see the ship computer just say “I don’t know” when it didn’t know something. If we could get our LLMs there it would be a nice step forward. You can definitely tell ours were made in Silicon Valley, home of the bullshit and fake it till you make it.

I tried asking Gemini to summarize a non-existent poem, and it said it would need the actual source of the poem to summarize it (but provided four potential themes based on the title). I then suggested that it was a standard English course text and it apologetically said that it couldn't find any record of it, but perhaps I was thinking of this other poem? It is perhaps too helpful at coming up with a workable solution to my request, but it did seem to know when it didn't know. Although perhaps that isn't the LLM but some additional information from a search query being fed into the LLM.

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I’m sure he’d love that comparison. But Elon is responsible for PayPal, Tesla, SpaceX, OpenAI and now Grok. I have a Starlink antenna on my roof because of him, and I take my kids to school safely and quietly in a car that, 15 years ago, someone willing to spend 20 million dollars would not have been able to buy. Sam? An iris scanning crypto scam. I think that’s all he ever got off the ground. With ChatGPT, he positi…

> Elon is responsible for PayPal Actually, he was responsible for the competitor that PayPal bought out because the market wasn't big enough for two companies, and was forced out of PayPal because he was pushing ruinously bad ideas.

Depends on whose viewpoint you read. He was the biggest shareholder and received $176 million when PayPal was sold to eBay. He was there from the beginning. And he wasn’t the marketing guy. Whether you like him or not, that’s all very different from Altman.

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Using Claude 3.5 Sonnet in Cursor Composer already shows huge benefits for coding. I'm more productive than ever before. The models are still getting better and better. I'm not saying AGI is right around the corner or that we will reach it, but the benefits are undeniable. o1 added test-time compute. No need to be snarky.

It’s not snark, our industry is run on fear. If there is the tiniest flicker of potential, we will spend piles of money out of fear of being left behind. As you age, it becomes harder to deny.. 10 years ago, I was starting to believe that my kids would never learn to drive or possibly buy a car, here we are ten years later and not that much has changed, I know you can take a robotaxi in some cities but nearly all int…

> ten years later and not that much has changed, I know you can take a robotaxi in some cities but

Uhh, that's a pretty big change.

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On some level, I still see Sam Altman as a visionary, but the moment that got me rolling my eyes was when we traveled to Middle East, reportedly looking to raise up to $7 trillion for AI chips. Like, bro, all the sovereign wealth funds of the Arab Gulf hold less than $3 trillion, mostly in illiquid assets that you could take a 50% haircut if you need to liquidate. And after the $100b Vision Fund fiasco where Saudi Ar…

Can someone enlighten me on how Sam Altman is a "visionary" of any kind? The extent of his vision, to the best of my knowledge so far, is "things will get cheap then cool stuff will happen." That's the laziest "vision" I've ever seen in my life. It depicts nothing concrete whatsoever.

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Using Claude 3.5 Sonnet in Cursor Composer already shows huge benefits for coding. I'm more productive than ever before. The models are still getting better and better. I'm not saying AGI is right around the corner or that we will reach it, but the benefits are undeniable. o1 added test-time compute. No need to be snarky.

There's no accounting for taste, but keep in mind that all of these services are currently losing money, so how much would you actually be willing to pay for the service you're currently getting in order to let it break even? There was a report that Microsoft is losing $20 for every $10 spent on Copilot subscriptions, with heavy users costing them as much as $80 per month. Assuming you're one of those heavy users, wo…

When was this profitability report, because the cost per token generation has dropped significantly.

When GPT4 was launched last year, the API cost was about $36/M blended tokens, but you can now get GPT4o tokens for about $4.4/M tokens, Gemini 1.5 Pro for $2.2/M or DeepSeek-V2 (as 21B A/236B W model that matches GPT4 on coding) for as low as $0.28/M tokens (over 100X cheaper for the same quality output over the course of about 1.5 years).

The just released Qwen2.5-Coder-7B-Instruct (Apache 2.0 licensed) also basically matches/beats GPT4 on coding benchmarks and quantized can not only can run at a decent speed on just about any consumer gaming GPU, but on most new CPUs/NPUs as well. This is about a 250X smaller model than GPT4.

There are now a huge array of open weight (and open source) models that are very capable and that can be run locally/on the edge.

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My grandma loved to remind my dad about how he didn't think CDs would become a thing, and to not invest in Philips (as i recall) And he was tech savy, building circuits, computers etc, he just didn't think it would be reliable or better than what existed... definitely a vinyl guy.

Conversely I sold thousands of bitcoins years ago once I learned the technology and recognized how stupid/useless it was. Didn't pan out well for me.

Yup, I had bought a few thousand bitcoin at about 2 or 3 cents each and sold them at 50 cents. Still "made money", but uhhh....

Re: TSMC execs allegedly dismissed OpenAI CEO Sam Altman as 'podcasting bro'

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I would pay hundreds of dollars per month for the combination of cursor and claude - I could not get my head around it when my beginner lever colleague said "I just coded this whole thing using cursor". It was an entire web app, with search filters, tree based drag and drop GUIs, the backend api server, database migrations, auth and everything else. Not once did he need to ask me a question. When I asked him "how lon…

Current LLMs fail if what you're coding is not the most common of tasks. And a simple web app is about as basic as it gets. I've tried using LLMs for some libraries I'm working on, and they failed miserably. Trying to make an LLM implement a trait with a generic type in Rust is a game of luck with very poor chances. I'm sure LLMs can massively speed up tasks like front-end JavaScript development, simple Python script…

Which model exactly? You understand that every few months we are getting dramatically better models? Did you try the one that came out within the last week or so (o1-preview).
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