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Re: Sublime Text 2.0 Released

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Post by seltzered_ »

mattacular wrote: post #288
seltzered_ wrote: post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

look forward to your talk tonight. I blew half my morning in vim playing with different plugins for a better file search experience, and finally caved and installed ST2. I'm happy so far, but hope they add multi-window support and terminal integration (unless they already have).

If I understand you correctly, ST2 has both of these things already. edit: Sublime has a CLI, but can't be run inside terminal.

My vim setup has typically been two vertical split buffers, one with whatever code I'm looking at, the other running either another piece of code, or ConqueTerm (bash console within vim).

Ideally I'd like the same environment mixed with some nearly "ide-looking" find-and-replace/refactoring support.

ST2 supposedly has these features from what I've read, just haven't dug into em yet.

Re: Sublime Text 2.0 Released

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Post by pbz »

snprbob86 wrote: post #215
jamesaguilar wrote: post #206

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No one's saying it's easy, but enough IDEs have done it that some of us have come to expect it.

I started programming on VB3 and spent many years doing Visual C++ and C# as well as quite a bit of Java with IntelliJ. I depended deeply on IntelliSense/autocomplete. Years later, I don't remember how I ever got anything done with that stupid distracting drop down box. It's just so easy to arrow up/down through that list and hope to stumble upon the correct method to call. On the rare occasion that I type that membe…

Using it as an alternative to documentation is a small part. First of all you get a confirmation that what you have up to that point is somewhat correct. If the dropdown doesn't show then something's wrong - sometimes that's ok and expected. You also get a type confirmation and actual completion as in type one or two characters and have the rest filled out for you.

Re: Sublime Text 2.0 Released

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Post by nshankar »

I would use Vim for one reason than anything else. It is for the commands vit, vat, cat, cit and the like that can select matching tags. In HTML editing this has been my best friend and no other editor comes even close to this feature.

Re: Sublime Text 2.0 Released

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Post by elviejo »

guns wrote: post #155
lordlarm wrote: post #124

Hm, Am I the only one who spends hours in vim each day with ~15 lines in my .vimrc and almost zero plugins? At some point I think I realized that no matter how feature-rich my editor was, the main thing stopping me from writing good and fast code was _thinking_, not configuring my text editor.

I continue to be haunted by something a good artist friend used to say: "Don't obsess over your tools. They are not the goal". This would ring in the back of my head as I spent many hours configuring my editor / shell / terminal setup. It felt like a guilty pleasure. It dawned on me however, that what had drawn me to programming in the first place was a sublime text editor (TextMate), and that my business is in fact…

My father is a car mechanic and once said nothing more powerful.than having the right tool for the job.

and he also said that your tools protect you.. the day you get a flat tire is exactly the day you put your tools out of the car...

Re: Sublime Text 2.0 Released

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Post by Myrmornis »

ConstantineXVI wrote: post #181
nicholassmith wrote: post #81

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You know, in theory it'd be possible to do that within Sublime but I'm not sure if that's veering towards the emacs approach of ALL THE THINGS. I'd have to try it but I think you can probably use PyQt to grab WebKit and make a package to display HTML docs within Sublime

The "all the things" approach is a large part of what keeps me away from Emacs[1]. I'd much rather use a single-purpose editor (like ST2 or Vim) alongside other similarly-focused tools, or a well-done IDE that's focused on it's environment. Emacs tries too hard to be everything at once (why do I want an editor that's a file manager, IRC client, organizer, and Tetris?). [1] The other is it's absolute refusal to "fit i…

> why do I want an editor that's a file manager, IRC client, organizer, and Tetris?

Although I don't want my editor to do all those things, for me the reason emacs wins is because it invites you to learn the (not unpleasant, genuine programming) language in which it is written and then do whatever you want with it. Even if you basically want to keep it simple having that power to hand is nice.

Re: Sublime Text 2.0 Released

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Post by damncabbage »

kamaal wrote: post #296
no_more_death wrote: post #186

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Dynamic languages are not ideal for huge code bases. But huge code bases are not ideal, period. Dynamic languages grant huge power to small programs. Greater power through less code is surely the future.

Only if we consider future of problem solving involves writing code. Tool generated code, might be a big thing in the future. Eclipse + Java is already 80% tool generated code.

Steve Yegge has some interesting points to make about generated code: http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com.au/2007/12/codes-worst-enemy...

Re: Sublime Text 2.0 Released

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Post by FixThisPOSSite »

Is Sublime better than TextMate? I do program in various languages and maintain collections of local and remote files.

I bought Coda 2 after using Coda 1 for years, and Coda 2 is a bug-riddled piece of shit. I guess I'll switch to Espresso, but I'll consider anything at this point. Except DreamWeaver, which is another buggy piece of shit.

Re: Sublime Text 2.0 Released

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Post by aerique »

kamaal wrote: post #298
msluyter wrote: post #128

Serendipitous, as I'm planning on doing a lightning talk on ST2 tonight. Editors seem to raise a lot of religious issues, and not to totally discount the distinctions that can be made between them, but I think it's more important to know your editor well than to worry about "the best editor." (If such a thing exists.) As Hunt & Thomas say in The Pragmatic Programmer : "use a single editor well."[1] You'll be most pro…

>>As Hunt & Thomas say in The Pragmatic Programmer: "use a single editor well."[1] You'll be most productive if you learn your editor from head to toe, than if you half-assedly know several. If this advice is to be taken seriously the only editors you can learn is vim and Emacs. Shiny editors like Sublime Text come and go every 2-3 years. And putting effort learning them, only brings you back to your statement: "You'…

Sublime Text definitely runs that risk by not being open. Look at Textmate.

Re: Sublime Text 2.0 Released

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Post by christiangenco »

kamaal wrote: post #298
msluyter wrote: post #128

Serendipitous, as I'm planning on doing a lightning talk on ST2 tonight. Editors seem to raise a lot of religious issues, and not to totally discount the distinctions that can be made between them, but I think it's more important to know your editor well than to worry about "the best editor." (If such a thing exists.) As Hunt & Thomas say in The Pragmatic Programmer : "use a single editor well."[1] You'll be most pro…

>>As Hunt & Thomas say in The Pragmatic Programmer: "use a single editor well."[1] You'll be most productive if you learn your editor from head to toe, than if you half-assedly know several. If this advice is to be taken seriously the only editors you can learn is vim and Emacs. Shiny editors like Sublime Text come and go every 2-3 years. And putting effort learning them, only brings you back to your statement: "You'…

    "use a single editor well...learn [] vim and Emacs"
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