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Re: Sublime Text 2.0 Released

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Post by lloeki »

juanpdelat wrote: post #72
brittohalloran wrote: post #39

Can I just say I love the pricing model. It's paid software, with an unenforced 'trial period'. Relying on coders who use a text editor all day and appreciate good software and want to compensate someone for their good software. +1 humans.

I agree. It would be great to see some revenue numbers, if it's really successful (which I think it is), it would be a nice model for other developers or software companies.

Well, it's infinite trialware, but it pops a few nag screens here and there, especially when saving files. And this, when you are working and have a habit of mashing Cmd+S regularly, gets in the way often enough.

I think the nag dial is just about right between casual use/unlimited evaluation and I'm using this editor for real shit.

Re: Sublime Text 2.0 Released

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Post by hyperturtle »

moe wrote: post #71
jscoder wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe take a look at VintageEx: https://github.com/SublimeText/VintageEx I'm not sure if search/replace is included but if not you could open an issue and maybe someone adds it. :)

Thanks man, that does indeed add working search/replace! Giving Sublime a whirl now. If nothing else it's going to be an interesting discovery of which Vim features I really use in my daily workflow. Edit: Sadly bumped right into the next issue. It seems in addition to the lack of Vim's visual-block-mode the native multi-select (Ctrl-Shift-L) doesn't work in vintage either. No multi-line editing at all is a bit of a…

The only thing I found that was similar was holding down shift and drag selecting with the right mouse button.

Re: Sublime Text 2.0 Released

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Post by cageface »

vidarh wrote: post #98
UnoriginalGuy wrote: post #33

I just tried Sublime 2 and I must admit I don't "get it." It seems like a basic editor with several features which Notepad++ already had. Specifically for programming I cannot see why you would use this as opposed to something like Visual Studio with its context aware auto-complete (massive productivity increase). But then again I also don't get why someone would use Vim or Emacs when you have GUI based tools availab…

Regarding auto-complete, I find it is extremely rare that typing speed is what slows me down, nor that I end up having to chase code around. There are plenty of fast search solutions for terminal based editors, but I don't even use things like ctags because the times I've tried it the speedup was never compelling enough to justify yet another thing to install on all the machines I work on. Solving the problem at hand…

I find it is extremely rare that typing speed is what slows me down

Auto-complete isn't about typing speed. It's about API exploration.

Re: Sublime Text 2.0 Released

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Post by Derbasti »

kellishaver wrote: post #109
rjsamson wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd be really interested to hear about how well this model works for them. I know that I, for one, am a paying customer because being able to use it for a month or so for free really got me hooked.

I used it for free for a long time (longer than I care to admit) but by the time I did pay, I was so in love I would have happily spent 2x on it.

Funny, I bought it more or less right away and ended up using Emacs instead. I still don't feel bad about it though. It is a worthy tool in my belt and I love to support it.

Re: Sublime Text 2.0 Released

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Post by guns »

lordlarm wrote: post #124

Hm, Am I the only one who spends hours in vim each day with ~15 lines in my .vimrc and almost zero plugins? At some point I think I realized that no matter how feature-rich my editor was, the main thing stopping me from writing good and fast code was _thinking_, not configuring my text editor.

I continue to be haunted by something a good artist friend used to say: "Don't obsess over your tools. They are not the goal".

This would ring in the back of my head as I spent many hours configuring my editor / shell / terminal setup. It felt like a guilty pleasure.

It dawned on me however, that what had drawn me to programming in the first place was a sublime text editor (TextMate), and that my business is in fact tool-building. My love for computing tools and the experience of using them reflects in the kind of software I build for clients.

On top of this, evaluating and obsessing over hacker's tools isn't confined to picking between models at the hardware store. I have pored over (and patched, however minor) bash, vim, tmux, rxvt-unicode, and many other programs that I use every day.

These things may well be rationalizations, so here's a simpler justification: the time I invest into my tools have made my experience of sitting down in front of a computer incredibly enjoyable. I once lived computer free for three years because I detested the uninspiring (and frustrating) experience of Microsoft Word and Windows 98. If that was what computing was, I wanted nothing to do with it.

Re: Sublime Text 2.0 Released

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Post by dsrguru »

richbradshaw wrote: post #127
lordlarm wrote: post #124

Hm, Am I the only one who spends hours in vim each day with ~15 lines in my .vimrc and almost zero plugins? At some point I think I realized that no matter how feature-rich my editor was, the main thing stopping me from writing good and fast code was _thinking_, not configuring my text editor.

You'd think that :) It's not about writing code though in my case, but marking things up as HTML. Multiple cursors help a lot here.

But so do Vim's t text object (one of the few text objects that Sublime's Vintage mode doesn't implement) and dot command, along with Vim's C-o and C-i cursor history commands.

Re: Sublime Text 2.0 Released

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Post by kaffeinecoma »

kodablah wrote: post #48
kaffeinecoma wrote: post #37

As an Intellij user (and Emacs way before that) I'm trying to give this a chance, but I see no way to click-navigate through source code. Am I missing something? I tried installing SublimeCodeIntel, and that lets me (occasionally) navigate to symbols in the current file. But I don't seem to be able to click through to symbols defined in other files/classes. Am I missing something fundamental, or is this strictly the…

It's not necessarily click-through as it is type-and-find. Ctrl+P to find a file, Ctrl+R (usually) to find methods/functions, etc. It's still very fast and productive.

I found that, but it cmd+r (I'm on a Mac) seems to only show you hits in the current file. The thing I'm interested in doing is clicking on a call to foo.bar() and have it bring up Foo.rb, right on the "def bar" method.

Also a lot of the time the thing I'm trying to navigate to is library code that's referenced via require, vs something that's actually in my codebase proper.

Re: Sublime Text 2.0 Released

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Post by brittohalloran »

juanpdelat wrote: post #72
brittohalloran wrote: post #39

Can I just say I love the pricing model. It's paid software, with an unenforced 'trial period'. Relying on coders who use a text editor all day and appreciate good software and want to compensate someone for their good software. +1 humans.

I agree. It would be great to see some revenue numbers, if it's really successful (which I think it is), it would be a nice model for other developers or software companies.

Interestingly, I think this model works best for 'software for developers'. Developers naturally empathize with the author of their software much more so than a 'typical user' would.

Re: Sublime Text 2.0 Released

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Post by richbradshaw »

dsrguru wrote: post #156
richbradshaw wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You'd think that :) It's not about writing code though in my case, but marking things up as HTML. Multiple cursors help a lot here.

But so do Vim's t text object (one of the few text objects that Sublime's Vintage mode doesn't implement) and dot command, along with Vim's C-o and C-i cursor history commands.

I guess it's what you are used to – I've never really got into Vim, whereas Sublime looks like a normal text editor until you need more from it.
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