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Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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Post by ben_w »

uhtred wrote: post #143
keeptrying wrote: post #57

If OpenAI is the foremost in solving the AGI - possibly the biggest invention of mankind - it's a little weird that everyone's dropping out. Does it not look like that no one wants to work with Sam in the long run?

Artificial General Intelligence requires a bit more than parsing and predicting text I reckon.

Yes, and transformer models can do more than text.

There's almost certainly better options out there given it looks like we don't need so many examples to learn from, though I'm not at all clear if we need those better ways or if we can get by without due to the abundance of training data.

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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Post by alephnerd »

nopromisessir wrote: post #158
sverhagen wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you also try to oust the CEO of a multi-billion dollar juggernaut?

Sure didn't. Neither did she though... To my knowledge. Can you provide any evidence that she tried to do that? I would ask that it be non-speculative in nature please.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/17/technology/openai-sam-alt...

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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Post by ben_w »

stathibus wrote: post #163
uhtred wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Artificial General Intelligence requires a bit more than parsing and predicting text I reckon.

at the very least you could say "parsing and predicting text, images, and audio". and you would be correct - physical embodiment and spatial reasoning are missing.

Just spatial resoning, people have already demonstrated it controlling robots.

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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Post by therouwboat »

xtracto wrote: post #133
dartos wrote: post #91

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I don’t think we’re gonna see a winter. LLMs are here to stay. Natural language interfaces are great. Embeddings are incredibly useful. They just won’t be the hottest thing since smartphones.

I just made a (IMHO) cool test with OpenAI/Linux/TCL-TK: "write a TCL/tk script file that is a "frontend" to the ls command: It should provide checkboxes and dropdowns for the different options available in bash ls and a button "RUN" to run the configured ls command. The output of the ls command should be displayed in a Text box inside the interface. The script must be runnable using tclsh" It didn't get it right the…

Why make tool when you can just ask AI to give you filelist or files that you need?

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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Post by vasco »

jsheard wrote: post #24
Imnimo wrote: post #7

It is hard for me to square "This company is a few short years away from building world-changing AGI" and "I'm stepping away to do my own thing". Maybe I'm just bad at putting myself in someone else's shoes, but I feel like if I had spent years working towards a vision of AGI, and thought that success was finally just around the corner, it'd be very difficult to walk away.

> It is hard for me to square "This company is a few short years away from building world-changing AGI" Altmans quote was that "it's possible that we will have superintelligence in a few thousand days", which sounds a lot more optimistic on the surface than it actually is. A few thousand days could be interpreted as 10 years or more, and by adding the "possibly" qualifier he didn't even really commit to that predicti…

OpenAI is a Microsoft play to get into power generation business, specifically nuclear, which is a pet interest of Bill Gates for many years.

There, that's my conspiracy theory quota for 2024 in one comment.

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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Post by [deleted] »

abecedarius wrote: post #93

Gwern predicting this in March: > Sam Altman has won. [...] Ilya Sutskever and Mira Murati will leave OA or otherwise take on some sort of clearly diminished role by year-end (90%, 75%; cf. Murati's desperate-sounding internal note) https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/KXHMCH7wCxrvKsJyn/openai-fac...

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Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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Post by nojvek »

Prediction: OpenAI will implode by 2030 and become a smaller shell of current as they run out of money by spending too much.

Prediction 2: Russia will implode by 2035, by also spending too much money.

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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Post by FactKnower69 »

hiddencost wrote: post #96
keeptrying wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you keep working past $10M net worth (as all these people undoubtedly are) its usually always for legacy. I actually think Sam's vision probably scares them.

$10M doesn't go as far as you'd think in the Bay Area or NYC.

hilarious logical end progression of all those idiotic articles about $600k dual income households in the bay living "paycheck to paycheck"

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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Post by alephnerd »

apwell23 wrote: post #192
Imnimo wrote: post #7

It is hard for me to square "This company is a few short years away from building world-changing AGI" and "I'm stepping away to do my own thing". Maybe I'm just bad at putting myself in someone else's shoes, but I feel like if I had spent years working towards a vision of AGI, and thought that success was finally just around the corner, it'd be very difficult to walk away.

Her rise didn't make sense to me. Product manager at tesla to CTO at openAI with no technical background and a deleted profile ? This is a very strange company to say the least.

A significant portion of the old guard at OpenAI was part of the Effective Altruism, AI Alignment, and Open Philanthropy movement.

Most hiring in the foundational AI/model space is very nepotistic and biased towards people in that clique.

Also, Elon Musk used to be the primary patron for OpenAI before losing interest during the AI Winter in the late 2010s.

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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Post by bot347851834 »

CharlieDigital wrote: post #120
eastbound wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a glorified grammar corrector?

Not really. I think actually the best use case for LLMs is "explainer". When combined with RAG, it's fantastic at taking a complex corpus of information and distilling it down into more digestible summaries.

Can you share an example of a use case you have in mind of this "explainer + RAG" combo you just described?

I think that RAG and RAG-based tooling around LLMs is gonna be the clear way forward for most companies with a properly constructed knowledge base but I wonder what you mean by "explainer"?.

Are you talking about asking an LLM something like "in which way did the teams working on project X deal with Y problem?" and then having it breaking it down for you? Or is there something more to it?

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