Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

Post by dfgtyu65r » Wed, Sep 25, 2024, 8:51 PM UTC

nopromisessir wrote: post #105

aresant wrote: post #30

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I think the much more likely scenario than product roadmap concerns is that Murati (and Ilya for that matter) took their shot to remove Sam, lost, and in an effort to collectively retain billion$ of enterprise value have been playing nice, but were never seriously going to work together again after the failed coup.

Highly speculative. Also highly cynical. Some folks are professional and mature. In the best organisations, the management team sets the highest possible standard, in terms of tone and culture. If done well, this tends to trickle down to all areas of the organization. Another speculation would be that she's resigning for complicated reasons which are personal. I've had to do the same in my past. The real pro's give t…

Post by widowlark » Wed, Sep 25, 2024, 8:52 PM UTC

deepGem wrote: post #112

aresant wrote: post #30

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I think the much more likely scenario than product roadmap concerns is that Murati (and Ilya for that matter) took their shot to remove Sam, lost, and in an effort to collectively retain billion$ of enterprise value have been playing nice, but were never seriously going to work together again after the failed coup.

Why is it so hard to just accept this and be transparent about motives ? It's fair to say 'we were not aligned with Sam, we tried an ouster, didn't pan out so the best thing for us to do is to leave and let Sam pursue his path", which the entirely company has vouched for. Instead, you get to see grey area after grey area.

Post by ilrwbwrkhv » Wed, Sep 25, 2024, 8:54 PM UTC

abecedarius wrote: post #93

Gwern predicting this in March: > Sam Altman has won. [...] Ilya Sutskever and Mira Murati will leave OA or otherwise take on some sort of clearly diminished role by year-end (90%, 75%; cf. Murati's desperate-sounding internal note) https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/KXHMCH7wCxrvKsJyn/openai-fac...

Post by BoorishBears » Wed, Sep 25, 2024, 8:55 PM UTC

hiddencost wrote: post #96

keeptrying wrote: post #66

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If you keep working past $10M net worth (as all these people undoubtedly are) its usually always for legacy. I actually think Sam's vision probably scares them.

$10M doesn't go as far as you'd think in the Bay Area or NYC.

Post by stagger87 » Wed, Sep 25, 2024, 8:55 PM UTC

deepGem wrote: post #112

aresant wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the much more likely scenario than product roadmap concerns is that Murati (and Ilya for that matter) took their shot to remove Sam, lost, and in an effort to collectively retain billion$ of enterprise value have been playing nice, but were never seriously going to work together again after the failed coup.

Why is it so hard to just accept this and be transparent about motives ? It's fair to say 'we were not aligned with Sam, we tried an ouster, didn't pan out so the best thing for us to do is to leave and let Sam pursue his path", which the entirely company has vouched for. Instead, you get to see grey area after grey area.