It’s Sam’s Club now.
Always has been
Altman was not there at the start. He came in later, as he did with YC.
Mira Murati leaves OpenAI
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Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI
#152It is hard for me to square "This company is a few short years away from building world-changing AGI" and "I'm stepping away to do my own thing". Maybe I'm just bad at putting myself in someone else's shoes, but I feel like if I had spent years working towards a vision of AGI, and thought that success was finally just around the corner, it'd be very difficult to walk away.
I feel like this is stating the obvious - but i guess not to many - but a probabilistic syllable generator is not intelligence, it does not understand us, it cannot reason, it can only generate the next syllable It makes us feel understood in the same ways John Edward used to in daytime tv, its all about how language makes us feel true AGI...unfortunately we're not even close
I'm not saying you're wrong but you could use this reductive rhetorical strategy to dismiss any AI algorithm. "It's just X" is frankly shallow criticism.
Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI
#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It is hard for me to square "This company is a few short years away from building world-changing AGI" Altmans quote was that "it's possible that we will have superintelligence in a few thousand days", which sounds a lot more optimistic on the surface than it actually is. A few thousand days could be interpreted as 10 years or more, and by adding the "possibly" qualifier he didn't even really commit to that predicti…
Between 1 and 10 thousands of days, so 3 to 27 years. A range I'd agree with; for me, "pessimism" is the shortest part of that range, but even then you have to be very confident the specific metaphorical horse you're betting on is going to be both victorious in its own right and not, because there's no suitable existing metaphor, secretly an ICBM wearing a patomime costume.
1 you use 1
2 (or even 3) you use "a couple"
A few is almost always > 3 and one could argue that upper limit 15
So, 10 years to 50 years
Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI
#154Lots of speculation in the comments. Who knows, but if it was me, I wouldn't be keeping all my eggs in the OpenAI basket, 6 years and well vested with a long run of AI companies you could go to? I'd start buying a few more lottery tickets personally (especially at 35).
Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI
#155Most comments posit that if OpenAI is so close to AGI, why leave and miss that payoff? It's possible that the competitors to OpenAI have rendered future improvements (yes even to the fabled AGI) less and less profitable to the point that the more profitable thing to do would be capitalize on your current fame and raise capital. That's how I'm reading this. If the competition can be just as usable as OpenAI's SOA mode…
I appreciate your insightful thoughts here :)
Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI
#156It is hard for me to square "This company is a few short years away from building world-changing AGI" and "I'm stepping away to do my own thing". Maybe I'm just bad at putting myself in someone else's shoes, but I feel like if I had spent years working towards a vision of AGI, and thought that success was finally just around the corner, it'd be very difficult to walk away.
Maybe it is but it's not the only company that is
Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI
#157It is hard for me to square "This company is a few short years away from building world-changing AGI" and "I'm stepping away to do my own thing". Maybe I'm just bad at putting myself in someone else's shoes, but I feel like if I had spent years working towards a vision of AGI, and thought that success was finally just around the corner, it'd be very difficult to walk away.
Maybe she thinks the _world_ is a few short years away from building world-changing AGI, not just limited to OpenAI, and she wants to compete and do her own thing (and easily raise $1B like Ilya).
I can't imagine investor pouring money on her. She has zero credibility both hardcore STEM like Ilya or a visionary like Jobs/Musk
Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI
#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
Highly speculative. Also highly cynical. Some folks are professional and mature. In the best organisations, the management team sets the highest possible standard, in terms of tone and culture. If done well, this tends to trickle down to all areas of the organization. Another speculation would be that she's resigning for complicated reasons which are personal. I've had to do the same in my past. The real pro's give t…
Did you also try to oust the CEO of a multi-billion dollar juggernaut?
Sure didn't.
Neither did she though... To my knowledge.
Can you provide any evidence that she tried to do that? I would ask that it be non-speculative in nature please.
Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI
#159It is hard for me to square "This company is a few short years away from building world-changing AGI" and "I'm stepping away to do my own thing". Maybe I'm just bad at putting myself in someone else's shoes, but I feel like if I had spent years working towards a vision of AGI, and thought that success was finally just around the corner, it'd be very difficult to walk away.
People still believe that a company that has only delivered GenAI models is anywhere close to AGI?
Success in not around any corner. It's pure insanity to even believe that AGI is possible, let alone close.
Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI
#160Once someone is independently wealthy, personal priorities change. I guarantee she'll crop up again as founder CEO/CTO where she calls the shots and gets the chance (even if slim) to turn millions into billions.