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Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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Post by ben_w »

Apocryphon wrote: post #69
Imnimo wrote: post #7

It is hard for me to square "This company is a few short years away from building world-changing AGI" and "I'm stepping away to do my own thing". Maybe I'm just bad at putting myself in someone else's shoes, but I feel like if I had spent years working towards a vision of AGI, and thought that success was finally just around the corner, it'd be very difficult to walk away.

What if she believes AGI is imminent and is relocating to a remote location to build a Faraday-shielded survival bunker.

Then she hasn't ((read or watched) and (found plausible)) any of the speculative fiction about how that's not enough to keep you safe.

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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Post by uhtred »

keeptrying wrote: post #57

If OpenAI is the foremost in solving the AGI - possibly the biggest invention of mankind - it's a little weird that everyone's dropping out. Does it not look like that no one wants to work with Sam in the long run?

Artificial General Intelligence requires a bit more than parsing and predicting text I reckon.

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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Post by [deleted] »

keeptrying wrote: post #57

If OpenAI is the foremost in solving the AGI - possibly the biggest invention of mankind - it's a little weird that everyone's dropping out. Does it not look like that no one wants to work with Sam in the long run?

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Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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Post by fairity »

startupsfail wrote: post #115
lacker wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's easy to have missed this part of the story in all the chaos, but from the NYTimes in March: Ms. Murati wrote a private memo to Mr. Altman raising questions about his management and also shared her concerns with the board. That move helped to propel the board’s decision to force him out. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/07/technology/openai-executi... It should be no surprise if Sam Altman wants executives who opp…

Greg Brockman, OpenAI President and co-founder is also on extended leave of absence. And John Schulman, and Peter Deng are out already. Yet the company is still shipping, like no other. Recent multimodal integrations and benchmarks of o1 are outstanding.

Quite interesting that this comment is downvoted when the content is factually correct and pertinent.

It's a very relevant fact that Greg Brockman recently left on his own volition.

Greg was aligned with Sam during the coup. So, the fact that Greg left lends more credence to the idea that Murati is leaving on her own volition.

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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Post by moralestapia »

The right way to think about this is that every persona on that team has a billion-dollar size blank check from VCs in front of them.

OpenAI made them good money, yes; but if at some point there's a new endeavor in the horizon with another guaranteed billion-dollar payout, they'll just take it. Exhibit A: Ilya.

New razor: never attribute to AGI that which is adequately explained by greed.

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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Post by hall0ween »

startupsfail wrote: post #115
lacker wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's easy to have missed this part of the story in all the chaos, but from the NYTimes in March: Ms. Murati wrote a private memo to Mr. Altman raising questions about his management and also shared her concerns with the board. That move helped to propel the board’s decision to force him out. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/07/technology/openai-executi... It should be no surprise if Sam Altman wants executives who opp…

Greg Brockman, OpenAI President and co-founder is also on extended leave of absence. And John Schulman, and Peter Deng are out already. Yet the company is still shipping, like no other. Recent multimodal integrations and benchmarks of o1 are outstanding.

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Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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Post by ben_w »

eastbound wrote: post #100
dartos wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t think we’re gonna see a winter. LLMs are here to stay. Natural language interfaces are great. Embeddings are incredibly useful. They just won’t be the hottest thing since smartphones.

It’s a glorified grammar corrector?

If you consider responding to this:

"oi i need lik a scrip or somfing 2 take pic of me screen evry sec for min, mac"

with an actual (and usually functional) script to be "glorified grammar corrector", then sure.

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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Post by nopromisessir »

itsoktocry wrote: post #128
nopromisessir wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Highly speculative. Also highly cynical. Some folks are professional and mature. In the best organisations, the management team sets the highest possible standard, in terms of tone and culture. If done well, this tends to trickle down to all areas of the organization. Another speculation would be that she's resigning for complicated reasons which are personal. I've had to do the same in my past. The real pro's give t…

What leads you to believe that OpenAI is one of the best managed organizations?

Many hours of interviews.

Organizational performance metrics.

Frequency of scientific breakthroughs.

Frequency and quality of product updates.

History of consistently setting the state of the art in artificial intelligence.

Demonstrated ability to attract world class talent.

Released the fastest growing software product in the history of humanity.

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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Post by fldskfjdslkfj »

BoorishBears wrote: post #127
hiddencost wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

$10M doesn't go as far as you'd think in the Bay Area or NYC.

Maybe it doesn't if you think you're just going to live off $10M in your checking account... but that's generally not how that works.

at 5% rate that's a cushy 500k a year.
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