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Apple Shares Full iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Pro Repair Manuals

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Re: Apple Shares Full iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Pro Repair Manuals

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Post by throwaway48540 »

Brian_K_White wrote: post #21
m463 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember dropping my treo 650 while hiking. The back cover came off, the battery went flying and worst of all - my memory card was dislodged and disappeared in the woods.

Was there a point to this story? I have a pixel 5a with a dead screen that runs but can't be used because the dead part is part of the motherboard not the screen. It's a known problem with this model. So it still runs, but I can't recover any pics or texts from dead people from it because I can't respond to the screen prompts to allow the USB connection. I don't see how I'm any better off.

Use USB-C to connect a hub with display and mouse, copy data over internet.

Re: Apple Shares Full iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Pro Repair Manuals

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Post by throwaway48540 »

bluescrn wrote: post #58
EthicalSimilar wrote: post #4

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Was the Treo 650 waterproof? :)

Do people go swimming with their phones? Older devices could generally handle splashes, e.g being used in light rain. Water damage seemed far less likely than drop damage.

Yes, I do.

Re: Apple Shares Full iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Pro Repair Manuals

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Post by Sakos »

userbinator wrote: post #24

The cost of the tools required for device repair and the cost of genuine components make self repair almost as expensive as getting a repair from an Apple retail location or an Apple Authorized Service Provider Malicious compliance accomplished. Apple's instructions for all of the battery repairs include expensive equipment like an iPhone battery press to put a replacement battery back in place. It's like they just c…

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Re: Apple Shares Full iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Pro Repair Manuals

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Post by shalmanese »

userbinator wrote: post #24

The cost of the tools required for device repair and the cost of genuine components make self repair almost as expensive as getting a repair from an Apple retail location or an Apple Authorized Service Provider Malicious compliance accomplished. Apple's instructions for all of the battery repairs include expensive equipment like an iPhone battery press to put a replacement battery back in place. It's like they just c…

The Apple provided tools are the ones used at first party Apple stores to perform authorized repairs. At some point, some bean counter tabulated the cost of building X000 machines and shipping them across the globe for a marginal increase in repair quality and deemed it a worthy tradeoff.

If you want to repair phones to the equivalent quality of Apple stores, Apple makes it possible via their "overengineered" machines. There's nothing in Apple's ToS that forces you to make repairs this way, you're welcome to buy the Apple genuine part and use your own heat mats and press and whatever and knowingly make that tradeoff.

Re: Apple Shares Full iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Pro Repair Manuals

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Post by AshamedCaptain »

EthicalSimilar wrote: post #4
miles wrote: post #2

> Compared to prior iPhone models, the iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Plus are easier to repair. Apple is using an electric battery removal process, and the steps for accessing a battery to replace it are outlined in a separate support document https://support.apple.com/en-us/120642 >. Per Apple's instructions, a 9-volt battery and 9-volt battery clips can be applied to the iPhone 16 battery to remove the adhesive that hold…

Was the Treo 650 waterproof? :)

Is gluing the battery inside the case really a requirement for waterproofing?

When they remove the battery cover -- "oh, waterproofing"

When they glue the battery amd remove all screws -- "oh, waterproofing"

When they eventually require an approved persons blood sample to perform repair, will I also hear the "oh, waterproofing" thing?

Re: Apple Shares Full iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Pro Repair Manuals

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Post by brailsafe »

dperrin wrote: post #40
makeitdouble wrote: post #35

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Do you expect your iPhone 16 battery press tool to still be useful in 2 phone generations ? How many times do you see yourself replacing the iPhone 16's battery ? If Apple was also promising to keep the same process for the next 7 years I'd see a point to this, but this of course not the case.

> Do you expect your iPhone 16 battery press tool to still be useful in 2 phone generations ? How many times do you see yourself replacing the iPhone 16's battery ? Lots of my bike tools I have will take over a decade to get my money back on my stuff alone. But I get to do something I mostly enjoy. I can also help out friends/acquaintances when they need it. The same goes for this.

> Lots of my bike tools I have will take over a decade to get my money back

That's... a bit surprising. Maybe one or two I could see, like a truing stand or some one-off equally proprietary thing for one brand of part, but what else?

Edit: nvm, there seems to be plenty of Park Tools brand niche reamers and so on that are many hundreds of dollars. I would think they'd remain viable for much longer than a battery replacement press though, since you'd adapt it to a particular bike's repair needs with different bits.

Re: Apple Shares Full iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Pro Repair Manuals

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Post by gruturo »

tanduv wrote: post #45
raverbashing wrote: post #39

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"every tool you need" sounds like basic stuff for a repair shop Nobody is going and buying the Apple 9v battery or "Apple sand"

ah yes the readily available custom "Battery press (923-02657)" https://cdsassets.apple.com/live/SZLF0YNV/images/tp/bucket_3...

I think we just found a use for all those Juicero's destined for the landfill.

Re: Apple Shares Full iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Pro Repair Manuals

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Post by microtonal »

EthicalSimilar wrote: post #4
miles wrote: post #2

> Compared to prior iPhone models, the iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Plus are easier to repair. Apple is using an electric battery removal process, and the steps for accessing a battery to replace it are outlined in a separate support document https://support.apple.com/en-us/120642 >. Per Apple's instructions, a 9-volt battery and 9-volt battery clips can be applied to the iPhone 16 battery to remove the adhesive that hold…

Was the Treo 650 waterproof? :)

Not this again :). Just taking a random example: the Samsung S5 was IPX67 rated (up to 1m for 30min), was thinner than an iPhone 16, and had a replaceable battery. Admittedly, it has fewer mAh, but it's also older battery technology and the volume of the phone case is slightly smaller (and probably has bigger electronics).

Is should be totally possible to make a good 2024 flagship with replaceable batteries, but we'd have to forgo the fancy glass back panels.

Re: Apple Shares Full iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Pro Repair Manuals

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Post by microtonal »

throwaway48540 wrote: post #62
bluescrn wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do people go swimming with their phones? Older devices could generally handle splashes, e.g being used in light rain. Water damage seemed far less likely than drop damage.

Yes, I do.

But that's most likely 1% of the market. They can have their own phones. The rest of us just want water resistance for accidental contact with water and easily replaceable batteries.
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