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Apple Shares Full iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Pro Repair Manuals

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Re: Apple Shares Full iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Pro Repair Manuals

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Post by Brian_K_White »

m463 wrote: post #11
akerr wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No one is stopping you from using a Treo 650.

I remember dropping my treo 650 while hiking. The back cover came off, the battery went flying and worst of all - my memory card was dislodged and disappeared in the woods.

Was there a point to this story?

I have a pixel 5a with a dead screen that runs but can't be used because the dead part is part of the motherboard not the screen. It's a known problem with this model. So it still runs, but I can't recover any pics or texts from dead people from it because I can't respond to the screen prompts to allow the USB connection.

I don't see how I'm any better off.

Re: Apple Shares Full iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Pro Repair Manuals

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Post by hbbio »

userbinator wrote: post #19
yalok wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Removing a battery attached with previous type of adhesive is torture - the elastic tab frequently tears off, and I ended up a few times having to bend the old battery a lot, to get it out (very unsafe, it starts heating). So, to me, this is a huge progress. Plus, don’t you normally have 9v battery and some connectors for it already?

This is not progress, this is overengineering pretending to be progress. Batteries don't need to be glued on in the first place.

No, it helps on a lot of issues. Starting with safety (it reduces damage on drops).

Re: Apple Shares Full iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Pro Repair Manuals

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Post by Brian_K_White »

EthicalSimilar wrote: post #4
miles wrote: post #2

> Compared to prior iPhone models, the iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Plus are easier to repair. Apple is using an electric battery removal process, and the steps for accessing a battery to replace it are outlined in a separate support document https://support.apple.com/en-us/120642 >. Per Apple's instructions, a 9-volt battery and 9-volt battery clips can be applied to the iPhone 16 battery to remove the adhesive that hold…

Was the Treo 650 waterproof? :)

It was water-indifferent, like a Jeep.

(Kidding. I did love mine and I did not protect it, and I'm sure it got rained on many times, but I don't know if I ever literally hosed water through it. :)

Re: Apple Shares Full iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Pro Repair Manuals

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Post by userbinator »

The cost of the tools required for device repair and the cost of genuine components make self repair almost as expensive as getting a repair from an Apple retail location or an Apple Authorized Service Provider

Malicious compliance accomplished.

Apple's instructions for all of the battery repairs include expensive equipment like an iPhone battery press to put a replacement battery back in place.

It's like they just copy-pasted their production line processes, but clearly that's not necessary.

Apple is known for their... interesting attitude towards repair, even in the previous manuals that have leaked. It somewhat reminds me of German automotive engineering --- lots of special tools and fixtures when a simpler and more conventional process would work just as well.

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Post by Kirby64 »

userbinator wrote: post #16
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> almost like Apple is maliciously complying by overcomplicating the procedure Sorry, which of a 9-volt battery, alcohol wipes, safety glasses or sand (and a container for it) screams inaccessible? (And everything there is technically optional. I doubt most Treo 650 users drained the battery before touching it, or bothered with a suction cup.) Removing the back glass takes special tools, but I'll take that over havin…

Not "inaccessible" but totally unnecessary. Why the bloody hell do you need a 9-volt battery to replace the battery!?!? Removing the back glass takes special tools, but I'll take that over having to replace my phone every time it gets wet. Gaskets have been around for over a century.

Their own repair guide states you can use literally any DC power supply, up to 30V. No need to waste 9Vs when you can use an off the shelf DC supply.

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Post by atonse »

userbinator wrote: post #24

The cost of the tools required for device repair and the cost of genuine components make self repair almost as expensive as getting a repair from an Apple retail location or an Apple Authorized Service Provider Malicious compliance accomplished. Apple's instructions for all of the battery repairs include expensive equipment like an iPhone battery press to put a replacement battery back in place. It's like they just c…

In just about any other situation in life, you will have to make some investment in tools with the understanding that you can use them multiple times.

For example, I bought the iFixit repair kit nearly a decade ago and I have used it for any minor work for all that time. $80 spent once and I’ve never once needed to fish for some strange bit or tool no matter what device I’ve opened. In fact, the iFixit kit will still be sufficient for this entire repair plus the 9 volt battery of course.

Unless you’re saying all these are one time use tools but I didn’t see that from the parts lists.

Re: Apple Shares Full iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Pro Repair Manuals

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Post by 015a »

miles wrote: post #8
akerr wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No one is stopping you from using a Treo 650.

Sadly, Verizon is: CDMA Network Update https://www.verizon.com/prepaid/cdma-network-update/ > Starting Dec 31,2022 we no longer support 3G/4G Non-VoLTE. To keep your service active, upgrade your phone.

Not just Verizon; the literal FCC, who licenses and restricts what bandwidth can be used for what purpose.

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Post by seventytwo »

miles wrote: post #2

> Compared to prior iPhone models, the iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Plus are easier to repair. Apple is using an electric battery removal process, and the steps for accessing a battery to replace it are outlined in a separate support document https://support.apple.com/en-us/120642 >. Per Apple's instructions, a 9-volt battery and 9-volt battery clips can be applied to the iPhone 16 battery to remove the adhesive that hold…

Oh, give me a break.

You can still do all the same shit with iFixit tools. These are just the genuine tools aimed at repair shops.

Re: Apple Shares Full iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Pro Repair Manuals

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Post by ratiolat »

EthicalSimilar wrote: post #4
miles wrote: post #2

> Compared to prior iPhone models, the iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Plus are easier to repair. Apple is using an electric battery removal process, and the steps for accessing a battery to replace it are outlined in a separate support document https://support.apple.com/en-us/120642 >. Per Apple's instructions, a 9-volt battery and 9-volt battery clips can be applied to the iPhone 16 battery to remove the adhesive that hold…

Was the Treo 650 waterproof? :)

Or perhaps get Samsung Xcover Pro - removable battery and IP68 rating (and audio jack!) https://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_xcover6_pro-11600.php

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Post by journal »

userbinator wrote: post #24

The cost of the tools required for device repair and the cost of genuine components make self repair almost as expensive as getting a repair from an Apple retail location or an Apple Authorized Service Provider Malicious compliance accomplished. Apple's instructions for all of the battery repairs include expensive equipment like an iPhone battery press to put a replacement battery back in place. It's like they just c…

I wonder if aliens exist, what technology they have for basics like transportation. Do they just load themselves into a cannon and shoot them to the destination? Just completely different ways of doing everything.
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