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Apple Shares Full iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Pro Repair Manuals

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Re: Apple Shares Full iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Pro Repair Manuals

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Post by m463 »

akerr wrote: post #7
miles wrote: post #2

> Compared to prior iPhone models, the iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Plus are easier to repair. Apple is using an electric battery removal process, and the steps for accessing a battery to replace it are outlined in a separate support document https://support.apple.com/en-us/120642 >. Per Apple's instructions, a 9-volt battery and 9-volt battery clips can be applied to the iPhone 16 battery to remove the adhesive that hold…

No one is stopping you from using a Treo 650.

I remember dropping my treo 650 while hiking. The back cover came off, the battery went flying and worst of all - my memory card was dislodged and disappeared in the woods.

Re: Apple Shares Full iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Pro Repair Manuals

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

userbinator wrote: post #9
miles wrote: post #2

> Compared to prior iPhone models, the iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Plus are easier to repair. Apple is using an electric battery removal process, and the steps for accessing a battery to replace it are outlined in a separate support document https://support.apple.com/en-us/120642 >. Per Apple's instructions, a 9-volt battery and 9-volt battery clips can be applied to the iPhone 16 battery to remove the adhesive that hold…

It's almost like Apple is maliciously complying by overcomplicating the procedure, which is not surprising.

> almost like Apple is maliciously complying by overcomplicating the procedure

Sorry, which of a 9-volt battery, alcohol wipes, safety glasses or sand (and a container for it) screams inaccessible? (And everything there is technically optional. I doubt most Treo 650 users drained the battery before touching it, or bothered with a suction cup.)

Removing the back glass takes special tools, but I'll take that over having to replace my phone every time it gets wet.

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Post by miles »

tshaddox wrote: post #10
miles wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sadly, Verizon is: CDMA Network Update https://www.verizon.com/prepaid/cdma-network-update/ > Starting Dec 31,2022 we no longer support 3G/4G Non-VoLTE. To keep your service active, upgrade your phone.

The same way that McDonald’s or H&R Block are preventing you from using a Treo 650. Those companies also do not provide cellular service compatible with that phone.

The main difference being that Verizon sold me the phone and supported it on their network until they didn't. So yes, the Treo 650 still turns on and can be used without voice or data service, but claiming that Verizon is no more preventing me from using it than McDonald's or H&R Block in this case seems disingenuous.

Re: Apple Shares Full iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Pro Repair Manuals

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Post by yalok »

miles wrote: post #2

> Compared to prior iPhone models, the iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Plus are easier to repair. Apple is using an electric battery removal process, and the steps for accessing a battery to replace it are outlined in a separate support document https://support.apple.com/en-us/120642 >. Per Apple's instructions, a 9-volt battery and 9-volt battery clips can be applied to the iPhone 16 battery to remove the adhesive that hold…

Removing a battery attached with previous type of adhesive is torture - the elastic tab frequently tears off, and I ended up a few times having to bend the old battery a lot, to get it out (very unsafe, it starts heating).

So, to me, this is a huge progress. Plus, don’t you normally have 9v battery and some connectors for it already?

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Post by userbinator »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #12
userbinator wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's almost like Apple is maliciously complying by overcomplicating the procedure, which is not surprising.

> almost like Apple is maliciously complying by overcomplicating the procedure Sorry, which of a 9-volt battery, alcohol wipes, safety glasses or sand (and a container for it) screams inaccessible? (And everything there is technically optional. I doubt most Treo 650 users drained the battery before touching it, or bothered with a suction cup.) Removing the back glass takes special tools, but I'll take that over havin…

Not "inaccessible" but totally unnecessary. Why the bloody hell do you need a 9-volt battery to replace the battery!?!?

Removing the back glass takes special tools, but I'll take that over having to replace my phone every time it gets wet.

Gaskets have been around for over a century.

Re: Apple Shares Full iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Pro Repair Manuals

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Post by userbinator »

threeseed wrote: post #5
miles wrote: post #2

> Compared to prior iPhone models, the iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Plus are easier to repair. Apple is using an electric battery removal process, and the steps for accessing a battery to replace it are outlined in a separate support document https://support.apple.com/en-us/120642 >. Per Apple's instructions, a 9-volt battery and 9-volt battery clips can be applied to the iPhone 16 battery to remove the adhesive that hold…

That is significantly easier than trying to remove a glued-on battery. And removable batteries require far more internal space which is why they fell out of favour.

And removable batteries require far more internal space

No they don't. Less than 1% extra volume.

Re: Apple Shares Full iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Pro Repair Manuals

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Post by userbinator »

yalok wrote: post #15
miles wrote: post #2

> Compared to prior iPhone models, the iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Plus are easier to repair. Apple is using an electric battery removal process, and the steps for accessing a battery to replace it are outlined in a separate support document https://support.apple.com/en-us/120642 >. Per Apple's instructions, a 9-volt battery and 9-volt battery clips can be applied to the iPhone 16 battery to remove the adhesive that hold…

Removing a battery attached with previous type of adhesive is torture - the elastic tab frequently tears off, and I ended up a few times having to bend the old battery a lot, to get it out (very unsafe, it starts heating). So, to me, this is a huge progress. Plus, don’t you normally have 9v battery and some connectors for it already?

This is not progress, this is overengineering pretending to be progress.

Batteries don't need to be glued on in the first place.

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Post by alooPotato »

userbinator wrote: post #17
threeseed wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is significantly easier than trying to remove a glued-on battery. And removable batteries require far more internal space which is why they fell out of favour.

And removable batteries require far more internal space No they don't. Less than 1% extra volume.

that seems not possible but i'm just guessing. where are you getting the 1% from?
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