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Facebook forces all users over to Facebook.com e-mail addresses

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Re: Facebook forces all users over to Facebook.com e-mail addresses

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Post by dredmorbius »

myko wrote: post #113
samstave wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Forced integration of G+ with Gmail, maps, youtube etc... The toolbar that is present across all services that is the G+ alert bar... As well as the fact that by default all your use of all Google products would be captured. You have to opt out of all google tracking to turn that off. While I wont call it being forced, it was an edict which you had plenty of time opting out from prior to it occurring...

Forced integration? It's your _Google_ account, it should work across all their products.

And if I'd much rather it didn't work, and log my activity, and broadcast my activity, among all Google products?

Re: Facebook forces all users over to Facebook.com e-mail addresses

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Post by nickheer »

kennywinker wrote: post #102
zhoutong wrote: post #100

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Yes, and how about iMessage and FaceTime that require email addresses in contacts to work? And also the 3rd party sites that rely on Facebook OAuth API to identify users based on emails (they could use uids, but I'm sure some are still using email).

Conspiracy theorist in me wonders if this move might have anything to do with the new facebook integration in iOS... millions of iPhones are about to start automatically pulling contact info from facebook, wouldn't it be nice if all those people started using their @facebook.com email address?

Since this change, I haven't seen any difference in my contacts. It looks like it's still pulling all available email addresses, not just facebook.com ones.

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Post by watmough »

This is nothing but a fairly desperate attempt to gain email address share, and promote Facebook lock-in.

Think about Joe Average User who spends a bunch of time on Facebook. If people start emailing them at JoeAverageUser@Facebook.com, then they can scarcely abandon the site...

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Post by dredmorbius »

pcwalton wrote: post #117
aniro wrote: post #106

The Manson Family. Note that "family". A controlling psychopath or cult requires cutting off access to outside resources, preempting a possible escape path. No different.

Could we please not take the trendy HN cynicism so far as to equate Facebook with mass-murdering serial killers? It's a social networking site .

And Charlie and Co were just a happy song-and-dance love society until they weren't.

Re: Facebook forces all users over to Facebook.com e-mail addresses

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Post by petitmiam »

sheckel wrote: post #77

Wow. This thread just alerted me to the existence of that 'other' mailbox. I had no clue that existed. That could have saved me some trouble; I just found this message from last July: http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/1792/screenshot20120625at35...

I just wonder how many millions of messages that have gone unnoticed. I've seen a few articles written, alerting people to it's existence, but it's not like people are searching for articles on things they don't know exist.

Re: Facebook forces all users over to Facebook.com e-mail addresses

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Post by omarchowdhury »

spydertennis wrote: post #112
slig wrote: post #103

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This completely blows away the "let's the users sign up using facebook, we store their email and if we ever decide to ditch the FB login, we can always email them a password reset"

I think for now the api is still returning their correct email address.

Have you tested it? Is this going to stay that way or will API usage move to returning only @facebook.com as well?

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Post by rhizome »

ThePherocity wrote: post #55
zerohp wrote: post #7

I don't think its overstating the situation to say: Facebook changes profiles without permission or notification.

True, but there is a fine line. You cannot reasonably move a product forward if a few select people refuse to play along. Every product I release, I'm met with disdain from users that don't want to change, and how it was perfect the way it was. And the next release with a different change, it's the same users complaining how the version that they're using now is perfect, why would I change things? People love to comp…

I'm not aware of a definition of reasonableness that hinges on the behavior of just "a few select people." To wit: if 100% participation is required, it's not reasonable.

Re: Facebook forces all users over to Facebook.com e-mail addresses

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Post by rhizome »

notatoad wrote: post #78
forgotAgain wrote: post #57

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There is no fine line here. Facebook changed a personal attribute of their users. This particular action is not justifiable under any circumstances I can see.

The only justification i can see is that it's facebook, and this is pretty much the sort of behaviour i expect from facebook. i have a hard time getting outraged over behaviour that is totally in character.

Just wait until Zuck starts getting hired by the White House.

Re: Facebook forces all users over to Facebook.com e-mail addresses

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Post by rhizome »

praxulus wrote: post #71
forgotAgain wrote: post #57

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There is no fine line here. Facebook changed a personal attribute of their users. This particular action is not justifiable under any circumstances I can see.

They're ethically obligated to hide infomation users don't want released, but are they really expected to publish everything their users ask to make public? It's annoying, but it doesn't spur anything like the moral outrage I would feel if they publicized your hidden addresses. At worst its a minor inconvenience.

Are you really flying the flag of Facebook's ethical obligations toward the benefit of their users?
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