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Craig Wright said he invented Bitcoin – lawyers proved him wrong

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Re: Craig Wright said he invented Bitcoin – lawyers proved him wrong

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> Unfortunately most developed nations are generally willing to domesticate the foreign judgements of other developed nations. There are exceptions, e.g. the SPEECH ACT makes many UK defamation claims largely unenforceable in the US... but even if you think you'd be able to block enforcement in your own jurisdiction, if you are wrong you likely forfeit being able defend the claim on its merits. I don't think this is…

There are mmmmmany such examples. The term, as I mentioned, is domesticating the judgement. In California the primary governing law is https://law.justia.com/codes/california/2009/ccp/1713-1724.h... (though there is similar/equivalent statute in most? all? other states) -- there are other laws for non-monetary damages though non-US non-monetary relief may be hard to domesticate because we generally don't do specific…

Interesting, thanks very much for the links and info. It seems NY is notably a state that does not have an equivilant to that CA legilslation, I'm based in NY so I wonder if that's why I was less aware of this.

I'm honestly surprised at this because there could be so many complications, and laws in a foreign country could be so different as to be incompatible with US laws.

Although the wiki does say it's up to a judge if the foreign judgement will be enforced locally or not. The legislation is one thing, do you know how often a US judge does tend to enforce a foreign judgement? What percentage of attempts to do so are successful?

This exception listed on the wiki page "The judgment is repugnant to the public policy of the state where enforcement is sought" I imagine would invalidate a lot of attempts.

Also, another listed exception "In the case of jurisdiction based only on personal service, the foreign court was an inconvenient forum for the trial" - wouldn't that be sufficient to stop US residents from having to spend a lot of money to defend themselves in a country they might never go to?

If you're in the UK and I'm in the US and I sue you, it doesn't seem reasonable to expect you to have to travel here or to spend money on local representation to defend yourself.

I would think the way it would work is that I would et a summary judgement here, and then it would be on me to travel to the UK to try and get it enforced. That seems fairer to me, although I guess it doesn't work like that.

Re: Craig Wright said he invented Bitcoin – lawyers proved him wrong

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I think that was a different court case. Wright has been involved in several.

You're both right and wrong. Here is a summary of cases recently at play. 1. Wright defamation lawsuit against a podcaster. (UK) 2. Wright defamation lawsuit against a bitcoin fan. (UK) 3. Bitcoin fan's declaratory judgement claim over wright's threats of defamation litigation (the case above). (Norway) 4. Wright lawsuit against Bitcoin.org for copyright infringement for distributing the Bitcoin whitepaper (UK). 5. W…

It's a shame that barratry isn't taken more seriously. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barratry_(common_law)

Re: Craig Wright said he invented Bitcoin – lawyers proved him wrong

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Fun fact: A Microsoft font also helped expose corruption by Pakistan's former PM, Nawaz Sharif [1]. Apparently, documents dated to 2006 were typed up using Calibri, a font that only went into public distribution around 2007. [1] https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/12/15961354/pakistan-calibri...

I guess it's prudent to remember to always use Times New Roman when committing fraud.

Still doesn't work, NSA has a backdoor agreement with "Big Font" to put little tags in fonts to pinpoint the time, data, and individual authoring the pdf or similar. Similar to how they watermark laser printers, the waterfont the fonts

Re: Craig Wright said he invented Bitcoin – lawyers proved him wrong

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I just don't understand why the guy claiming he is the creator and main programmer of a cutting edge anti-establishment crypto asset, would present himself as a suit and tie wearing business man who drinks champagne. Like wtf is going on.

He's trying to trigger some super-stimulus response in his targets based on being a rich supergenius entrepreneur. It's more effective than you might think. The fact that his actions don't actually look much like the rich, a supergenuis, or an entrepreneur doesn't matter-- the target is people that don't actually know what that looks like. It's the same reason that he claims to have earned more than 20 postgraduate d…

thank you for your insight. My only confusion is why is he targeting that strata of humans, surely he should be focusing on the impression he gives to the lawyers, rich, techies.

Re: Craig Wright said he invented Bitcoin – lawyers proved him wrong

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What if you lost the key?

What if you insisted you had the key and would prove that you were possibly the owner that way, but when the time came you setup a cardboard door in front of the real one and opened it using a bump key? That's essentially what has happened with Wright. There are various pieces of evidence that, while not definitive in isolation would be persuasive, which he has insisted he could use to prove himself-- but when the ti…

I agree he was faking it. Seems like he was an inadequate con man. He must have gotten some investment on a very high risk high reward basis I assume.

But speaking of inadequate adults, sometimes I lose my key.

Re: Craig Wright said he invented Bitcoin – lawyers proved him wrong

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You misunderstand the point people saying this make. They know governments can suppress their freedoms ultimately but since Bitcoin is an open and public system, the measures governments have to use to "kill" it force them to limit very fundamental freedoms (like freedom of speech to restrict the publishing of its source code, freedom to consume the energy citizens purchase and/or produce how they want, neutral acces…

China banned bitcoin mining and now there's hardly any bitcoin mining in China. Maybe the legal wrangling would be more involved in western countries, but I can't see why enforcement would be any harder. ISPs already block bittorrent and blacklist domains. They could easily block bitcoin, too.

Actually, it's estimated that about a quarter of mining is in China. The largest players moved, the rest are lying low, so it's hard to get exact numbers.

Re: Craig Wright said he invented Bitcoin – lawyers proved him wrong

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Adam Back wrote Bitcoin (as well as haschash). It's not that much of a mystery.

Please don't do this.

He's repeatedly denied it, and your ignorant claim can only bring him and his family trouble.

(Also, I've known Adam for a number of years through multiple Bitcoin conversations and I can personally vouch that it's not him!)

Re: Craig Wright said he invented Bitcoin – lawyers proved him wrong

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I think that was a different court case. Wright has been involved in several.

You're both right and wrong. Here is a summary of cases recently at play. 1. Wright defamation lawsuit against a podcaster. (UK) 2. Wright defamation lawsuit against a bitcoin fan. (UK) 3. Bitcoin fan's declaratory judgement claim over wright's threats of defamation litigation (the case above). (Norway) 4. Wright lawsuit against Bitcoin.org for copyright infringement for distributing the Bitcoin whitepaper (UK). 5. W…

Thanks. I need to stop posting quotes from Wikipedia as if they were reliable.
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