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Anti-competitive monopoly behavior. We need to split Chrome out of Alphabet.
With what source of revenue?
The same source as Firefox.
Everyone says Chrome devastates Mac battery life, but does it? 36 hour test
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#92I wish someone could design HTML6 around performance and good practice It's time to deprecate things
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#93Why would you use chrome if you have a Mac? I have chrome for the occasional site that doesn’t work, but safari never crashes
People use it for the google account integration. Logged in to all services, all history/bookmarks/tabs/passwords syncs over.
history/bookmarks/tabs/passwords is easily synced via Safari > File > Import From > Google Chrome/Firefox and safari can log into google accounts just as easily as chrome can.
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#94I guess most people dont follow browser development anymore.
We are now in 2024.
Perhaps the peak of Chrome complaining battery drain was something in between 2018 - 2020. It also happens to be the peak of Safari is the new IE with so many web features missing and bugs unresolved. Both are correct to a certain degree and have been the case for many years before it reached what could be described as a PR crisis.
Since then Safari had twice if not more features and bug fix than usual in the next few Safari releases. While Chrome worked on multi tab memory usage reduction, and efficiency. At the same time Firefox just went into polishing mode because a lot of the efficiency work already came from Servo, E10s and Memshrink over the past 10 years.
In multi tab usage ( ~50 to 80 ) Chrome is already better than Safari simply because Safari still dont consider lots of Tabs on macOS as one of their usage scenario. And Chrome being better for that for at least 2 years. For 7000 tabs it is still better to use Firefox. I guess that is what I called battle tested. My record was only around 2000 Tabs, and that was 10 years ago.
As a matter of fact, I would consider current Firefox ( 130 ) to be the best browser on the market, single tab or multi tab usage. Being the fastest and most efficient. The last time this happened was in pre Chrome IE 7 era. ( As one could argue IE 6 was better than Firefox )
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I didn't realize John Gruber had reached "cult leader" levels of apologism.
He's been that way for at least 10 years, from what I can tell.
Things popularised or started by Gruber
USB-C Invented by Apple.
AirPod selling at cost.
Apple invented big.LITTLE core. ( He later retract that ).
Probably more than I could remember but those three were some of the worst because his reader would then go and spread the gospel.
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#96Why wouldn’t it? Has to capture and send all that spyware data for better ad matching.
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#97Why would you use chrome if you have a Mac? I have chrome for the occasional site that doesn’t work, but safari never crashes
My question is why use Safari, other than it being preinstalled? It feels barebones. There must be some reason most Mac users are go out of their way to avoid Safari. ~70% of Mac users use chrome or chromium browsers, versus only 19% who use safari, and 3% who still use firefox [I searched "mac browser market share" and clicked the first link]. My guess is it's the lack of good extensions. People spend a lot of time…
Because it’s barebones. Most of the time I’m on my Mac I use “regular” apps; I never really used web apps much (on my Mac nor on my OpenBSD/linux machines)
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Representative for who? I haven't been longer than 15 minutes on YouTube - in total within the past 2 years. So certainly not representative for me.
"Representative" means of a population. "Representative for me" is incoherent. You're not a population; you don't have population statistics.
True, i give you that.
But saying YouTube must be included is like saying that most people watch YouTube, which is certainly not true at all.
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#99> More recently, I read the argument that it’s so bad that Chrome running it’s Chromium engine ought not be allowed to exist on iPhones and iPads. The subtext is John Gruber's post 6 days ago, defending Apple's iOS lockdown: "Imagine — and this takes a lot of imagination — if Google actually shipped a version of Chrome for iOS, only for the EU, that used its own battery-eating rendering engine instead of using the en…
I didn't realize John Gruber had reached "cult leader" levels of apologism.
He has a huge hard on for hating on the EU for daring to regulate Apple.
It’s been endless hit pieces about how they suck at innovation and how having Apple Intelligence is better than having Fortnite and how users having the option to install what they want on their device is the worst thing to ever happen.
Hypocritically being silent when China forces Apple to adopt RCS and has countless regulations on what they can do.
It’s almost as if he’s trying to push Apple’s agenda of why they shouldn’t be regulated anywhere. A more cynical person might even consider that he’s compensated to do so.
But then you look at his past pieces of remote work being the devil, even though he’s worked like that his whole life and the simplest explanation of him being on out of touch person seems to be the right one.
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#100He didn't mention an ad blocker. I wonder if that would change things.
Especially if (like me) he's got an ad blocker in Chrome but not in Safari.