Why would you use chrome if you have a Mac? I have chrome for the occasional site that doesn’t work, but safari never crashes
Why would you use either of those when there’s Firefox?
Everyone says Chrome devastates Mac battery life, but does it? 36 hour test
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#72Instead of YouTube and Google Docs, maybe it could be Netflix and Notion?
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#73Why would you use chrome if you have a Mac? I have chrome for the occasional site that doesn’t work, but safari never crashes
People use it for the google account integration. Logged in to all services, all history/bookmarks/tabs/passwords syncs over.
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#74> More recently, I read the argument that it’s so bad that Chrome running it’s Chromium engine ought not be allowed to exist on iPhones and iPads. The subtext is John Gruber's post 6 days ago, defending Apple's iOS lockdown: "Imagine — and this takes a lot of imagination — if Google actually shipped a version of Chrome for iOS, only for the EU, that used its own battery-eating rendering engine instead of using the en…
I didn't realize John Gruber had reached "cult leader" levels of apologism.
He's a total bootlicker shill. His takes are often dishonest and ignorant. He's not officially an Apple employee but he's effectively "second party". His access to insiders is predicated on his subservience. He doesn't get an annual WWDC stage interview with Craig Federighi without bending the knee.
That said, I still read Daring Fireball every week. His takes may be super biased and wrong, but it's still useful to read things from that perspective.
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Representative of who? Not me, certainly, I don't use YouTube.
So when some interesting link leads to a youtube video, or someone sends a link to youtube directly to you, you just don't open it?
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I think one big issue is that there are OS specific APIs on Windows and Mac that allow you to only redraw the pixels/layers of the web browser window that have changed, with the unchanged portion retained in memory and recomposited. We've seen versions of Safari and Edge that leverage those sorts of APIs to deliver better battery life on their respective platforms, but if you are writing a cross platform browser you…
What are these APIs? Why isn't this possible on standard cross platform graphics APIs? Edit: I guess it's probably this sort of thing https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/directcomp/a...
On the Mac, it's the Core Animation layers API.
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#77Instead of YouTube and Google Docs, maybe it could be Netflix and Notion?
Or the whole atlassian suite, github and teams + a single linkedin tab.
Re: Everyone says Chrome devastates Mac battery life, but does it? 36 hour test
#78Why would you use chrome if you have a Mac? I have chrome for the occasional site that doesn’t work, but safari never crashes
People use it for the google account integration. Logged in to all services, all history/bookmarks/tabs/passwords syncs over.
I guess that makes sense. Safari iCloud integration is super convenient for syncing everything to my phone etc.
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#79> More recently, I read the argument that it’s so bad that Chrome running it’s Chromium engine ought not be allowed to exist on iPhones and iPads. The subtext is John Gruber's post 6 days ago, defending Apple's iOS lockdown: "Imagine — and this takes a lot of imagination — if Google actually shipped a version of Chrome for iOS, only for the EU, that used its own battery-eating rendering engine instead of using the en…
Yeah, there's lots of half-fact nonsense going around in this space. But really that's the real takeaway here: the reason that "everyone knows" something that was false[1], because no one actually cares about the facts . Modern laptops do extremely well with battery life, Macbooks best among them, and frankly no one is away from a charger for that kind of period in the modern world. You know the thing will always hav…
Half-fact is being too generous, in my view.
Remember “Chrome is bad”? (As proven by the empirical method of “I deleted a bunch of Google named things and now not only does my laptop run cooler, my laundry uses less water as well!”)
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#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
I didn't realize John Gruber had reached "cult leader" levels of apologism.
He's a total bootlicker shill. His takes are often dishonest and ignorant. He's not officially an Apple employee but he's effectively "second party". His access to insiders is predicated on his subservience. He doesn't get an annual WWDC stage interview with Craig Federighi without bending the knee. That said, I still read Daring Fireball every week. His takes may be super biased and wrong, but it's still useful to r…
People talking themselves into violently agreeing that yes, being able to run Game Boy emulators and Firefox on their iPhones is unequivocally bad is something to behold and shows how far in space and time the RDF really reaches.