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Re: Entire staff of game publisher Annapurna Interactive has reportedly resigned

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Post by alexjplant »

sameoldtune wrote: post #108
InDubioProRubio wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IP, content, blobs - container words - a sure-fire indicator in any conversation that , that the parties involved areunable to accurately value, evaluate, organize and produce, the valuables that should reside inside the container. So here the daily reminder, that logistics is a commodity now, but producing something of value, is not.

“Content” is an advertising term for whatever fills the space between all the ads

I've always had an intense visceral distaste for referring to podcasts, videos, and long-form writing as "content," especially when creators use the term. No matter how well-meaning or neutral its usage might be, I always involuntarily picture an old-timey cartoon farmer dumping slop into a giant trough when I hear phrases like "bringing you better content" or "being an influencer producing the type of content you want to see." I think you've just helped me solve the puzzle — hopefully, this will help me shed my negative association with the term. Many actually respectable internet personalities I follow use it, and I don't like being "that guy."

Re: Entire staff of game publisher Annapurna Interactive has reportedly resigned

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Post by ryandrake »

amiga386 wrote: post #174
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #126

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Branson is supposed to be a really decent chap. I suspect a lot of it has to do with who you surround yourself with, and how much agency you give them. One word that rich people almost never hear, is “no.” Even really nice ones don't hear it often. That means that almost any rectally-sourced, harebrained idea they squeeze out, is treated as genius, by their entourage. I know a number of fairly wealthy people, and som…

> Branson is supposed to be a really decent chap. Do yourself a favour and read the Tom Bower biographies of him, e.g. Branson: Behind The Mask In fact, you can a get a good understanding of him indirectly through the testimony in Tubular Bells: the Mike Oldfield story https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=877&v=UQLDGpcgNTM e.g. John Giddings says of Branson "He was a chancer. He was prepared to gamble and go for it. He wa…

Fun Fact: Richard Branson had such an antagonistic relationship with Mike Oldfield, that Oldfield included a segment in one of his albums where he plays a guitar with staccato notes that spelled out "Fuck Off R.B." in morse code[1], recording under Branson's own label.

1: https://www.mikeoldfield.org/amarok

Re: Entire staff of game publisher Annapurna Interactive has reportedly resigned

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Post by ryandrake »

stefan_ wrote: post #37
sonofhans wrote: post #5

> “The report, which IGN can confirm based on conversations with our own sources, states that Annapurna Interactive president Nathan Gary had recently been in negotiations with Annapurna founder and billionaire Megan Ellison to spin the gaming segment off as its own company. However, Ellison eventually pulled out of negotiations, at which point Gary resigned. Almost 30 other individuals, including division co-heads D…

Imagine having to negotiate with Larry Ellisons nepo daughter, how can you even keep a straight face. "It says here you are a film producer?"

Wow, I didn't make the last name connection until reading this thread. The Wikipedia page[1] for Annapurna Pictures doesn't even mention that the founder is the child of a billionaire. It just kind of implies the founder dabbled in film school for two semesters, went off to travel the world, and then -poof- a media production company is conjured into existence. Pretty rosy depiction of nepotism.

1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annapurna_Pictures

Re: Entire staff of game publisher Annapurna Interactive has reportedly resigned

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Post by 6c696e7578 »

robjwells wrote: post #29
hinkley wrote: post #12

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Another lawnmower is born.

For those who don’t get the lawnmower reference, take 5 minutes and have a hearty laugh: https://youtube.com/watch?t=1980&v=-zRN7XLCRhc (Start at the 33 minute mark if it doesn’t jump you there.)

I should have read this thread, it would have saved me the couple of minutes to get the exact same link you just did!

I named my lawnmower Larry.

Re: Entire staff of game publisher Annapurna Interactive has reportedly resigned

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Post by pkaye »

rhelz wrote: post #134
MichaelZuo wrote: post #102

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How can anyone hold IP over an abstract vibe?

// How can anyone hold IP over an abstract vibe? // Same way somebody can hold a patent to a cartoon drawing of a mouse. It's not any individual picture of Mickey Mouse which is (solely) copywrited; even if you draw Mickey Mouse from a different angle, or upside down, or turn it into a plush toy, or a popsicle.....or if you drew Mickey's twin brother, or even his younger brother who bore a family resemblance.... ...w…

Patents only last 20 years in most countries. Design patents for 15 years in US (I think 25 years in EU.) Mickey Mouse has be around for a lot longer than that.

Re: Entire staff of game publisher Annapurna Interactive has reportedly resigned

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Post by groby_b »

Liquix wrote: post #178
sameoldtune wrote: post #108

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“Content” is an advertising term for whatever fills the space between all the ads

in 2024 there are so many one-click-install adblockers for your browser, phone's DNS, router... anyone still seeing a sizable amount of ads these days has to be the most complacent, easily manipulated, lucrative demographic imaginable

Or maybe some people have moral qualms with simply taking without giving back.

Re: Entire staff of game publisher Annapurna Interactive has reportedly resigned

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Post by rhelz »

amiga386 wrote: post #166
rhelz wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

// How can anyone hold IP over an abstract vibe? // Same way somebody can hold a patent to a cartoon drawing of a mouse. It's not any individual picture of Mickey Mouse which is (solely) copywrited; even if you draw Mickey Mouse from a different angle, or upside down, or turn it into a plush toy, or a popsicle.....or if you drew Mickey's twin brother, or even his younger brother who bore a family resemblance.... ...w…

You can't hold a patent to a cartoon drawing of a mouse (that you're implying is the character Mickey Mouse) You can hold a design patent for the look of a tangible object - e.g. the rounded corners of an iPhone. You can also hold a design patent for particularly novel typefaces (fonts), the layout of a screen (e.g. like Norton Commander's twin directory listings on the left and right) and for computer icons, but tha…

// You can't hold a patent to a cartoon drawing of a mouse // No, cartoons are protected by copyright, not by patents. And if I'm not mistaken, the original comment which wondered if a general vibe could be intellectual property was talking about something which would be protected by copyright as well.

But the same principle holds for patents. E.g. patenting an algorithm. It doesn't matter what language the algorithm is implemented in, whether you are running it on a binary computer or on some kind of a Chinese room set up, etc etc.

Think about how different two turing machines can be which implement the same algorithm. They don't even have to use the same symbols or states. They could print their outputs in English, French or any other natural language. The only thing that all Turing machines which implement the same algorithm have in common is a "vibe". Same kind of general vibe which the original commenter was talking about.

Re: Entire staff of game publisher Annapurna Interactive has reportedly resigned

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Post by bartread »

sameoldtune wrote: post #108
InDubioProRubio wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IP, content, blobs - container words - a sure-fire indicator in any conversation that , that the parties involved areunable to accurately value, evaluate, organize and produce, the valuables that should reside inside the container. So here the daily reminder, that logistics is a commodity now, but producing something of value, is not.

“Content” is an advertising term for whatever fills the space between all the ads

In the context of certain YouTube communities - a couple of examples I'm aware of are synthtube or watchtube - "content" is also an advertising term for advertising, since this is really what many of the demo or "review" videos are.

People hawking products on Instagram, TikTok, or wherever fall into the same category. The reality is that the whole influencer industry is pretty much just hawking products and services to people.

Re: Entire staff of game publisher Annapurna Interactive has reportedly resigned

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Post by bartread »

alexjplant wrote: post #181
sameoldtune wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Content” is an advertising term for whatever fills the space between all the ads

I've always had an intense visceral distaste for referring to podcasts, videos, and long-form writing as "content," especially when creators use the term. No matter how well-meaning or neutral its usage might be, I always involuntarily picture an old-timey cartoon farmer dumping slop into a giant trough when I hear phrases like "bringing you better content" or "being an influencer producing the type of content you wa…

I share your distaste for "content". To me the word speaks of a lack of interest, understanding, or even respect, for what creators are making.

To some extent it does serve a useful purpose in that it makes it clear that it is in fact the ads that are the main event on these platforms, and that the "content" is merely a palatable delivery mechanism for adverts... which is a pretty depressing realisation.

Re: Entire staff of game publisher Annapurna Interactive has reportedly resigned

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Post by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF »

wlesieutre wrote: post #129
philistine wrote: post #103

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You're not quite there. Annapurna does not make games, it publishes them. There's no significant number of 3D artist working there. Even on the movie side, they don't directly make the movies.

They do (did?) have an in-house team working on a Blade Runner game, I haven't seen any mention in news coverage if that team is out as well https://annapurnainteractive.com/en/games/blade-runner-2033-...

From that page:

> From Annapurna Interactive, ...

Sounds like it's the same group. I doubt they're leaving with the IP but I also doubt that Annapurna Productions is going to make a game with it.

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