The Friendship that made Google huge (2018)
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The Friendship that made Google huge (2018)
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#3I don't understand why so many people insist in revering others for what they've achieved.
If you need to revere anything, revere the achievement, not the man that did it.
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#4I don't understand why so many people insist in revering others for what they've achieved. If you need to revere anything, revere the achievement, not the man that did it.
yeah this is a classic "puff piece" not really about the engineers themselves but a subtle advert for google for being a place where geniuses work. They (and nytimes, wired etc) do the same thing with Geofrey Hinton and a few other key engineers. Matter of fact it happens at other companies as well and unsure if its something the company pays for or something else.
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#5I like how this digs into pair programming using these two as an example - pair programming, at least when I was coming up, was seen as a panacea to all software development problems. However, in our field, suffice it to say there are "difficult" personalities or people much more comfortable working alone, and in practice, I've rarely seen success with it, personally, more than someone looking over your shoulder every now and then to debug something. As a primary working method, which it seems like the subjects of this article are doing, you definitely need to find someone who thinks like you.
I've had things that were close, but usually devolves into multiple short 10-20 minute meetings, division of tasks, then reconvene, rinse/repeat. That typically works well and I don't have to deal with people nitpicking how I use my editor or how many chrome tabs I have open.
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#6I don't understand why so many people insist in revering others for what they've achieved. If you need to revere anything, revere the achievement, not the man that did it.
yeah this is a classic "puff piece" not really about the engineers themselves but a subtle advert for google for being a place where geniuses work. They (and nytimes, wired etc) do the same thing with Geofrey Hinton and a few other key engineers. Matter of fact it happens at other companies as well and unsure if its something the company pays for or something else.
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#7I struggled badly on a pair programming position.
It's not like I don't like reviews or cannot work alongside another person. It's I cannot learn while someone is talking to me or trying to make me place the cursor somewhere.
I'm all in for code review, even in pairs. In fact, I do that with a junior dev I have assigned and it's working well for us. I leave him thinking and come back to evaluate his solution.
I find reviewing him paired, is time saving for me. I make him lead me to the right code spots, rather than finding out on my own. I fire 3 quick questions and we're aligned on the spot.
I'll never work again on a 100% pp position but I think I've found my sweet spot with the technique.
I agree that, if no other safeguards are in place, using pp you can avoid real bad code. But without deep thought, you'll mostly converge to an average solution, when social dynamics are very much leading.
Re: The Friendship that made Google huge (2018)
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And 102 comments on HN at the time: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18588697
Re: The Friendship that made Google huge (2018)
#9I don't understand why so many people insist in revering others for what they've achieved. If you need to revere anything, revere the achievement, not the man that did it.
yeah this is a classic "puff piece" not really about the engineers themselves but a subtle advert for google for being a place where geniuses work. They (and nytimes, wired etc) do the same thing with Geofrey Hinton and a few other key engineers. Matter of fact it happens at other companies as well and unsure if its something the company pays for or something else.
And it’s a happy coincidence that it comes right at the start of their latest and largest antitrust trial! Some contractor in charge of monitoring their mentions is pumping their fist rn at this repost, lol
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#10I don't understand why so many people insist in revering others for what they've achieved. If you need to revere anything, revere the achievement, not the man that did it.
It's not revering a person but a friendship. Anybody reading their code would know what the article is talking about. C++ is not the ideal language to make the hard thing seem easy but they did.