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Re: Cruise ships chopped in half are a license to print money

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Why not just not answer your phone while on vacation?

Because I was enjoying myself on Bourbon Street. That is time that I paid for that they took from me. I will never get it back.

You should reread the comment you replied to.

Re: Cruise ships chopped in half are a license to print money

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Cruise ships have a huge ecological impact everywhere they go. They burn colossal amounts of fuel, they produce lots of toxic exhaust, sewage, etc. A lot of destinations for these things don't exactly have a lot of regulations for any of this either. Just flying to your destination and staying in some nice place is arguably both better for the environment and probably a lot more enjoyable depending on your tastes. No…

> Cruise ships have a huge ecological impact everywhere they go.

The sheer size of these things is hard to comprehend. I'm on vacation at the fancy french riviera and the billionaire's superyachts, when on a bay next to a cruise ship, look like tiny miniature toys. It's just wild. The cruise ships are not just three to five times longer, they're also, way, way, way taller than the superyachts.

You see a cruise ships and it screams "I'm here to destroy the environment".

My wife wanted to try a vacation on a cruise ship but to me it's a big no-no.

Re: Cruise ships chopped in half are a license to print money

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The big draw for me was that my phone wouldn't work. Peers had a habit of calling me for non-critical, non-production problems. The worst was Mardi Gras, where I'm on Bourbon Street for Fat Tuesday, and my operations head calls me with an analyst on the line and burns fifteen minutes with a problem that turned out to be development coding. My phone did occasionally explode with voicemails and texts when I got back to…

Separate your work and personal phone? It seems not the healthiest of companies to work for. If you can’t set boundaries, might need help by using. A second phone

My colleagues and I put the work line on an eSIM so we can turn the work “phone” off completely with a toggle in the Settings app.

(If anyone from Apple is reading this, would be great to be able to schedule DND on a eSIM line.)

Re: Cruise ships chopped in half are a license to print money

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That's the beautiful thing, different people enjoy different things, and on vacation, people get to pick and do the thing they enjoy, rather than the thing someone else enjoys. Except with cruise ships, morally righteous people are declaring this specific thing wrong and trying to keep people from being allowed to do this. The Guardian claims that "At full power the Harmony of the Seas’ two 16-cylinder engines would…

You are cherry-picking only one of the environmental issues that cruise ships cause. Even that aside, you are also ignoring a large part of the discussion in the first article you cite, which focuses on all of the other, acute, air pollution cruise travel causes in the port cities. Focusing on CO2 is a strawman.

I focused on CO2 because it's often cited and one of the more comparable metrics, and I used those articles only as sources for my estimates. Between the date of the article and today, significant new regulation for maritime fuels came out.

But the kind of environmentalists I am talking about aren't suggesting to regulate cruise ship emissions, they demand banning cruise ships, because they're a visible symbol of loosely-defined luxury/"excess", and thus any impact is seen as unjustifiable.

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This is not an "American" thing. I'm American, and I would never, ever, ever in any known universe within the multiverse, bring my work phone with me on a vacation, let alone answer it or do work stuff. And, I would never give anyone at work my personal phone number. Strict separation of work and personal, and never the twain shall meet. We should not accept jobs that keep you on the leash even during your vacation a…

Not intending this to be snarky, but do you not have friends you meet at work? Is it a case of your friends knowing not to call your for work reasons?

The implication that it's typical for one's friends to call them on vacation for work reasons is bonkers to me. What kind of friends are those?

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> all-inclusive resorts... And these have zero appeal to me as well. As someone who road trips all across the U.S. with the wife, the highlights have of course been the serendipitous ones.

That's the beautiful thing, different people enjoy different things, and on vacation, people get to pick and do the thing they enjoy, rather than the thing someone else enjoys. Except with cruise ships, morally righteous people are declaring this specific thing wrong and trying to keep people from being allowed to do this. The Guardian claims that "At full power the Harmony of the Seas’ two 16-cylinder engines would…

Without 'moral righteousness' we have a degenerate society

Re: Cruise ships chopped in half are a license to print money

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There are many ways to enjoy seas, cruise ships are by far the worst. As per people who worked on those, they are mostly for people who simply don't know how to enjoy life well but have money, are quiet alcoholics, and/or suffer massive loneliness. You can do amazing traveling experiences for less, you are in control of your own life and what happens next and you will feel like spending much more time when discoverin…

I don't get this kind of vitriol toward cruise goers. I like to plan trips as an adventure like you and 6 years ago had zero desire to ever go on a cruise. I ended up going on one because my in-laws wanted to do a European cruise with extended family for their retirement celebration. They don't drink, they enjoy their life and got to celebrate with family so no loneliness. They are just older and don't have the physi…

As a person who definitely has big issues with the cruise industry as a whole this was the best pro-cruises comment I read in the whole thread, especially this bit :

> but the cruise allowed me to go and walk around port cities that I wouldn't have been able to go to otherwise, without substantially more cost

However, I still note that it was written by a person who identifies as someone generally uninterested in cruises i.e. not the typical cruise-ship enthusiast.

Re: Cruise ships chopped in half are a license to print money

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Yes, it only destroys the environment from afar

Of course, outside the environment -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5qxZm_JqM

I like to sort comments by new whenever I see this linked. Doing this today, seems most ppl now are return viewers in on the joke and only a few asking "Is this real?". Used to be a lot more of the latter.

Re: Cruise ships chopped in half are a license to print money

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Parallax, sunlight intensity, directionality, heat. It's a pity we don't have affordable (or even any?) artificial windows that even emulate the sun. Just think how much more economically buildings could be made if they had effective fake windows.

You can do-it-yourself https://youtu.be/6bqBsHSwPgw?si=fWO5-pYa6kPYKLZO

There's also a commercial version:

https://www.coelux.com/

Re: Cruise ships chopped in half are a license to print money

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Parallax, sunlight intensity, directionality, heat. It's a pity we don't have affordable (or even any?) artificial windows that even emulate the sun. Just think how much more economically buildings could be made if they had effective fake windows.

You can do-it-yourself https://youtu.be/6bqBsHSwPgw?si=fWO5-pYa6kPYKLZO

You can also buy this from Alibaba - just the real thing, not the LCD flat panels. (the real ones are 10-20cm deep). I got a few two winters ago, and they are amazing for dark and gloomy Polish winters.

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Circle-Artificial-Sun...

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