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Re: Cruise ships chopped in half are a license to print money

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Cruise ships have a huge ecological impact everywhere they go. They burn colossal amounts of fuel, they produce lots of toxic exhaust, sewage, etc. A lot of destinations for these things don't exactly have a lot of regulations for any of this either. Just flying to your destination and staying in some nice place is arguably both better for the environment and probably a lot more enjoyable depending on your tastes. No…

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Re: Cruise ships chopped in half are a license to print money

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Cruises hit a spot of: * All the fun and "not thinking" of an all-inclusive resort (though obviously only if you pay for the drink packages) on land * Generally cheaper than all inclusive resorts on mainland USA (I'm not as familiar with Europe) * Competitive on pricing with all inclusive resorts in the Caribbean/Mexico * Get to skip out on flight to the Caribbean/Mexico * Get to skip out out of the overt semi-coloni…

The big draw for me was that my phone wouldn't work. Peers had a habit of calling me for non-critical, non-production problems. The worst was Mardi Gras, where I'm on Bourbon Street for Fat Tuesday, and my operations head calls me with an analyst on the line and burns fifteen minutes with a problem that turned out to be development coding. My phone did occasionally explode with voicemails and texts when I got back to…

This is a fading benefit. The ship I took this summer had free Starlink connections powering their WiFi. It wasn’t great for calls and they blocked video, but texting was possible. (You had to be careful though because they also exploitatively ran a mobile cellular microcell that charged insane data roaming fees, which meant you had to be very careful about when you turned on roaming.)

Re: Cruise ships chopped in half are a license to print money

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"raw dog" and "dogging" are two different sexual slang terms. "raw dogging" here is to be understood as to raw dog in present tense, not dogging in a manner that is raw.

This is what I love about HN, you can find an expert on anything.

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Re: Cruise ships chopped in half are a license to print money

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It's also currently fashionable to describe any mixing of Western people/money/enterprise with the developing world as "colonial." I don't think many people actually think they're King George III as they enjoy a vacation in the Bahamas.

They're talking about the obvious racial segregation: the white people are to be treated like kings, and the brown people are there to do the treating.

Except it's really not so clean. I just did an Alaska cruise, and the passenger set was about exactly as diverse as you'd expect: a ton of west coast tech folks and their families with pretty much the same ethnic backgrounds you'd see in a scrum meeting, a bunch of tourists from both Europe and east asia, etc...

Is that good/bad/classist/exclusionary/exploitive? Not really interested in engaging. Certainly economic unfairness is everywhere in the world. But "racial segregation" really isn't a good way to describe it.

Re: Cruise ships chopped in half are a license to print money

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A 'cut and shut'? Where do you live for that to be legal? https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ftsa&q=cut+and+shut

Most limousines are made like that. The practice is fine in theory but I guess the business is too shady for the vehicles to be fine in practice.

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Re: Cruise ships chopped in half are a license to print money

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There are many ways to enjoy seas, cruise ships are by far the worst. As per people who worked on those, they are mostly for people who simply don't know how to enjoy life well but have money, are quiet alcoholics, and/or suffer massive loneliness. You can do amazing traveling experiences for less, you are in control of your own life and what happens next and you will feel like spending much more time when discoverin…

There’s times I want to explore, and there’s times I just want to do nothing. Cruises are good for when I want to do nothing for a while.

Sounds like a very expensive way to do nothing. I can do nothing at home virtually for free.

Re: Cruise ships chopped in half are a license to print money

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I worked on a cruise ship below decks, once, for 3 hours, and I swore I would never take a cruise. Take the dirtiest hotel you have ever been in, and then ensure you cant leave it for days at a time. It interests me that demand is increasing but I suspect thats just good advertising.

This is anecdata:

I know three people who've come back sick from cruises. The most interesting one was just last week: someone who had Mal de Débarquement Syndrome for six months. She was dizzy all the time. There is no cure.

This might be a good one to try on your boss if you want to avoid business travel: say you suffer from Mal de Débarquement Syndrome!

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/24796-mal-de-...

Re: Cruise ships chopped in half are a license to print money

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After owning small cruising sailboats for about twenty years my wife and I did the calculation that we could sell our last boat and go on two of three cruises a year. The big cost of cruising, by the way, is not so much the ship but expensive shore excursions that sometimes take you away from the ship overnight. I get all the complaints people have against cruising but for us we have seen so much of the world in rela…

It's also possible to do this on "cruise ships" that aren't "cruise ships". My wife and I toured the Dalmation coast (Croatia, Montenegro, Albania, Greece) on the https://www.yachtcharterfleet.com/luxury-charter-yacht-48957... ten years ago - a cruise, but a cruise with ~30 other people, not ~6000. It's a big difference! The ship itself was, as you say, really just the way to get there; everything happened on-shore.

> a cruise, but a cruise with ~30 other people, not ~6000.

This is the sort of thing that tempts me - an enchanting vision, like something out of "Death on the Nile", only minus the death. Just a small floating hotel that takes you to interesting places, not a floating amusement park combined with buffet.

Re: Cruise ships chopped in half are a license to print money

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I worked on a cruise ship below decks, once, for 3 hours, and I swore I would never take a cruise. Take the dirtiest hotel you have ever been in, and then ensure you cant leave it for days at a time. It interests me that demand is increasing but I suspect thats just good advertising.

This is anecdata: I know three people who've come back sick from cruises. The most interesting one was just last week: someone who had Mal de Débarquement Syndrome for six months. She was dizzy all the time. There is no cure. This might be a good one to try on your boss if you want to avoid business travel: say you suffer from Mal de Débarquement Syndrome! https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/24796-mal-de-.…

Isn't that just vertigo?

Re: Cruise ships chopped in half are a license to print money

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This is anecdata: I know three people who've come back sick from cruises. The most interesting one was just last week: someone who had Mal de Débarquement Syndrome for six months. She was dizzy all the time. There is no cure. This might be a good one to try on your boss if you want to avoid business travel: say you suffer from Mal de Débarquement Syndrome! https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/24796-mal-de-.…

Isn't that just vertigo?

But it's got its own name, and in French! Much better.
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