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Re: Cruise ships chopped in half are a license to print money

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Post by marcosdumay »

watsocd wrote: post #92
dylan604 wrote: post #51

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> Get to skip out on flight to the Caribbean/Mexico This is a strange comment, as most people still have to fly to a port city. So maybe that flight is shorter and a domestic flight, but it's still requires a flight.

There are many Americans who are terrified of flying into a foreign city. With a cruise out of Miami, they never have to step on foreign soil.

International flights are uncomfortable in several different ways.

In a cruise you can always just go back to the ship, and avoid any random issue.

Re: Cruise ships chopped in half are a license to print money

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consumer451 wrote: post #114
raldi wrote: post #62

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They produce sewage that would otherwise not have existed?

Years ago, Key West built enough extra sewage treatment capacity to process sewage from the many cruise ships which visit the city. There was a plan to require all ships to discharge and pay for treatment so that sewage was not dumped 12 miles off-shore, which is only 3 miles past the reef. Captains get a bonus for fuel savings, so they tend to dump as soon as it is legal. The cruise industry threatened to remove Key…

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Re: Cruise ships chopped in half are a license to print money

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Post by vintermann »

bluGill wrote: post #100
mark_l_watson wrote: post #78

After owning small cruising sailboats for about twenty years my wife and I did the calculation that we could sell our last boat and go on two of three cruises a year. The big cost of cruising, by the way, is not so much the ship but expensive shore excursions that sometimes take you away from the ship overnight. I get all the complaints people have against cruising but for us we have seen so much of the world in rela…

Try an alaska cruise. You are there for the views that cannot be seen from land and not the tourist traps.

This is a point, I think. Is it great with cruise traffic to Svalbard? Maybe not. Is it better than having all those people fly to Longyearbyen by plane, and wander around on guided tours in the wilderness? Definitively.

Re: Cruise ships chopped in half are a license to print money

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Post by raldi »

consumer451 wrote: post #114
raldi wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They produce sewage that would otherwise not have existed?

Years ago, Key West built enough extra sewage treatment capacity to process sewage from the many cruise ships which visit the city. There was a plan to require all ships to discharge and pay for treatment so that sewage was not dumped 12 miles off-shore, which is only 3 miles past the reef. Captains get a bonus for fuel savings, so they tend to dump as soon as it is legal. The cruise industry threatened to remove Key…

What do you think happens to land-based sewage?

Re: Cruise ships chopped in half are a license to print money

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Post by vintermann »

tempest_ wrote: post #106
mark_l_watson wrote: post #78

After owning small cruising sailboats for about twenty years my wife and I did the calculation that we could sell our last boat and go on two of three cruises a year. The big cost of cruising, by the way, is not so much the ship but expensive shore excursions that sometimes take you away from the ship overnight. I get all the complaints people have against cruising but for us we have seen so much of the world in rela…

Honestly the reason I am "against" cruising is because they are usually floating environmental travesties

They often are. Still, the question is always how bad they are per tourist, and I suspect that the solo sailing folks aren't much better in that regard.

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Post by ClumsyPilot »

School-Cotton wrote: post #103
GJim wrote: post #81

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> If they know you're in cell range and ignoring them, they'll be pissy. Frankly, I'd be "pissy" if my superiors tried calling me when I'm on holiday and I would have no qualms informing them of that fact. But then I'm not American.

> But then I'm not American. Europeans being smug about how much better their society is than Americans’ is such an annoying cliche at this point. We get it, Europe is a paradise. Btw, I’m American and I would simply not answer if my work tried to contact me while on vacation. Conversely, I know multiple Europeans with terribly unhealthy work/life balance who work constantly while on vacation.

> Americans’ is such an annoying cliche at this point. We get it, Europe is a paradise.

I get it, for Americans this is an unusual experience but the rest of the planet putting up with American Chiche’s about us is Tuesday

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Post by mnahkies »

doe_eyes wrote: post #125
chengiz wrote: post #63

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A lot of responses from people who have never taken a cruise, how typical. There is a lot of nickel and diming but floor plans and room views tend to be shown when you're buying. Even the interior windowless rooms are extremely well designed for space. The lack of windows does not really matter (for budget conscious travellers) since you're going to be only in there for sleeping and using the bathroom. Of course, no…

Yeah, I went on a cruise once, and the whole idea is that you don't spend time in your cabin. It's not a train. You have cinema screens, live performances, restaurants and bars, libraries, quiet lounge areas, pools, and so on. Plus, there are sightseeing opportunities on land, and the neat thing about cruise ships is that they dock where the action is. Airports are always on the outskirts; ports tend to be situated p…

I've only been on one cruise, but I'd semi agree. Personally I thoroughly enjoyed the cruise, but the time on shore was too short for my liking, I prefer to stay the same place for several days and get immersed - I think of it as a better all inclusive resort (and sometimes that's what you need)

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Post by ghaff »

ryandrake wrote: post #95
GJim wrote: post #81

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> If they know you're in cell range and ignoring them, they'll be pissy. Frankly, I'd be "pissy" if my superiors tried calling me when I'm on holiday and I would have no qualms informing them of that fact. But then I'm not American.

This is not an "American" thing. I'm American, and I would never, ever, ever in any known universe within the multiverse, bring my work phone with me on a vacation, let alone answer it or do work stuff. And, I would never give anyone at work my personal phone number. Strict separation of work and personal, and never the twain shall meet. We should not accept jobs that keep you on the leash even during your vacation a…

I mean, vacation is vacation. I've also agreed to do interviews and such if I'm on vacation and it's convenient. I may also have glanced at email from time to time and sent a quick response to something with the proviso that I'm on vacation.
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