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Re: A Post-Google World?

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After traveling through the middle east: Google is far from present here, it’s Yandex territory. And I bet Asian countries can be conquered by Chinese companies the same way.

I have to use Yandex almost daily, because Google has stopped indexing a massive amount of the Internet. It's almost more useless than Yahoo was after Google came along, which is crazy.

What kind of stuff do you find missing? Is it strictly regional/firewalled content?

Re: A Post-Google World?

#132

> video sharing, mapping, mobile phones, and the other Google infrastructure. These are all areas ripe for innovation and disruption, This is incredibly wrong. We've had mountains of innovation in all of these areas under Google's leadership and from competitors like Apple, Mapbox, Microsoft, AWS, etc. When Google ends up costing more to use, competitors will _not_ need to innovate to attract customers to their platf…

Apple is not really a competitor though, is it? The post was focused on search but let's not forget Apple is experiencing their own version of sinking deeper into anti-trust lawsuits following years of market abuse.

Re: A Post-Google World?

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Can't wait for Google to be broken up and made an example of. Same with Amazon soon, I hope.

And the CIA not being able to read the Google Docs spreadsheets of all companies, NGOs and diplomats of the world?

Why would that stop if they got got broken up?

Re: A Post-Google World?

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post #106

> video sharing, mapping, mobile phones, and the other Google infrastructure. These are all areas ripe for innovation and disruption, This is incredibly wrong. We've had mountains of innovation in all of these areas under Google's leadership and from competitors like Apple, Mapbox, Microsoft, AWS, etc. When Google ends up costing more to use, competitors will _not_ need to innovate to attract customers to their platf…

What innovation has happened in Maps in the last 19 years? Aside from buying Waze in 2013?

Mobile, gps navigation, transit features, ride hailing, fuel efficient routes, pedestrian routes, live traffic, to name a few.

Re: A Post-Google World?

#135

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I have to use Yandex almost daily, because Google has stopped indexing a massive amount of the Internet. It's almost more useless than Yahoo was after Google came along, which is crazy.

What kind of stuff do you find missing? Is it strictly regional/firewalled content?

While my main search engine is still Google, I use Yandex more and more. I have no specific example right now but it's not unusual for Y to give me meaningful result when G, with the same search string, give me crap.

Re: A Post-Google World?

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post #106

> video sharing, mapping, mobile phones, and the other Google infrastructure. These are all areas ripe for innovation and disruption, This is incredibly wrong. We've had mountains of innovation in all of these areas under Google's leadership and from competitors like Apple, Mapbox, Microsoft, AWS, etc. When Google ends up costing more to use, competitors will _not_ need to innovate to attract customers to their platf…

What innovation has happened in Maps in the last 19 years? Aside from buying Waze in 2013?

SEO for maps. [1] I didn't say the world has got better.

[1] Yes this is a thing. A "maps SEO consultant" popped up offering me his services a few months back, and after a bit of digging it's clear this is a new and hideous barnacle of a subsector has appeared to make money out of making maps and everyone's lives worse

Re: A Post-Google World?

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post #106

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What innovation has happened in Maps in the last 19 years? Aside from buying Waze in 2013?

One thing I appreciate is how much better maps have gotten for non-drivers: bike and pedestrian paths, public transport (especially live schedules, delays, alerts) and legitimately good directions generated for walking, biking and taking transport. I believe that using wifi to improve localization on phones also happened within the last 19 years—quick Google found me an article from 2010 about how they started gather…

Didn’t better pedestrian maps come as a result of the size of the market, really? Suddenly everyone in the world had a smart GPS device in their pocket and adding some more routes onto existing maps would have made sense for any map maker, regardless if it was Google or some other hypothetical company.

Re: A Post-Google World?

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post #107

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If we get independence in ad space, we may see publications flourish again, which is a net win. I would prefer a local newspaper be profitable than have youtube creators be paid more.

It's difficult to imagine margins in advertising and app store management would remain as high as they are when opened to competition. The primary reason Google has fought so hard is because it knows, even if left whole, its margins would drastically shrink once it has to compete on price.

They won't be as high, but the profit will be more dispersed.

Re: A Post-Google World?

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Google is so unusable right now that I couldn't care less. I just started paying for Kagi and it's excellent. I forgot how it's possible for a search engine to just find the information I want without blasting my eyes with corporate slop.

Not every tom, dick and harry is going to be able to pay for services. Personally, If I dont own the software and cant change its source code I dont trust the company. Hopefully at some point in the far future computing and AI will become so efficient that we will be able to own our own search infrastructure.That being said once this future arrives Im probably going to have to search for a new job as I dont see softw…

I was a paid Kagi subscriber. I unsubscribed due to my temporary financial difficulties, but I'm resubscribing as soon as I'm able to afford expenses like this. I'm VERY happy with them.

Re: A Post-Google World?

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post #6

Generally an excellent and accurate write up, nervous/excited to see where this goes. A bit over the top with some of the things google has done in the programmatic space, but aligns with reality. I disagree with the display/programmatic space innovations being held back by google - there are an insane amount of small players who are doing different things and it’s easy to integrate them into the existing space. IE i…

The issue is not whether startup alternatives exist, it is more in my mind that no mid-market companies exist because they are taken out at the knees before they threaten the incumbents through acquisitions.

It eventually becomes impossible to avoid doing business with them.

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