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Re: A Post-Google World?

#101
> video sharing, mapping, mobile phones, and the other Google infrastructure. These are all areas ripe for innovation and disruption,

This is incredibly wrong. We've had mountains of innovation in all of these areas under Google's leadership and from competitors like Apple, Mapbox, Microsoft, AWS, etc. When Google ends up costing more to use, competitors will _not_ need to innovate to attract customers to their platforms, and the technology will stagnate.

Re: A Post-Google World?

#102
post #6

Generally an excellent and accurate write up, nervous/excited to see where this goes. A bit over the top with some of the things google has done in the programmatic space, but aligns with reality. I disagree with the display/programmatic space innovations being held back by google - there are an insane amount of small players who are doing different things and it’s easy to integrate them into the existing space. IE i…

Can't wait for Google to be broken up and made an example of. Same with Amazon soon, I hope.

Re: A Post-Google World?

#103
post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think about this a lot and feel like we are in a horrid position. All of our core service and software is locked up in a handful of companies. For humanity and the future of software’s sake we need to go back to users of software owning their software, preferably by being free and open source. It hurts me as somebody who wants to make money off software, but SaaS is just a bad deal for everybody. My compromise is i…

I honestly think SaaS - which I think is more honestly described as "renting software" - is a business model that would have never worked if we hadn't curtailed so many threats to it with draconian laws The most natural analogy for software is infrastructure. Lots of money to be made in building, maintaining, and supporting it, but as with any technology, the proposition of renting the right to use it is one that is…

Isn't most infrastructure rented? I fail to see how SaaS is special in this respect. You rent internet access from your ISP, you rent roads when you pay tolls, you rent sewage access, etc.

Saying that software is infrastructure only supports the renting model.

Re: A Post-Google World?

#105

In the end we will all lose, in my opinion. Google will start to charge more for access to YouTube, along with increasing ads. They will begin to pay creators less due to the increased cost in serving the ads. We will see a decline in the quality and quantity of high production video education.

If we get independence in ad space, we may see publications flourish again, which is a net win. I would prefer a local newspaper be profitable than have youtube creators be paid more.

Re: A Post-Google World?

#106

> video sharing, mapping, mobile phones, and the other Google infrastructure. These are all areas ripe for innovation and disruption, This is incredibly wrong. We've had mountains of innovation in all of these areas under Google's leadership and from competitors like Apple, Mapbox, Microsoft, AWS, etc. When Google ends up costing more to use, competitors will _not_ need to innovate to attract customers to their platf…

What innovation has happened in Maps in the last 19 years?

Aside from buying Waze in 2013?

Re: A Post-Google World?

#107

In the end we will all lose, in my opinion. Google will start to charge more for access to YouTube, along with increasing ads. They will begin to pay creators less due to the increased cost in serving the ads. We will see a decline in the quality and quantity of high production video education.

If we get independence in ad space, we may see publications flourish again, which is a net win. I would prefer a local newspaper be profitable than have youtube creators be paid more.

It's difficult to imagine margins in advertising and app store management would remain as high as they are when opened to competition.

The primary reason Google has fought so hard is because it knows, even if left whole, its margins would drastically shrink once it has to compete on price.

Re: A Post-Google World?

#108
post #106

> video sharing, mapping, mobile phones, and the other Google infrastructure. These are all areas ripe for innovation and disruption, This is incredibly wrong. We've had mountains of innovation in all of these areas under Google's leadership and from competitors like Apple, Mapbox, Microsoft, AWS, etc. When Google ends up costing more to use, competitors will _not_ need to innovate to attract customers to their platf…

What innovation has happened in Maps in the last 19 years? Aside from buying Waze in 2013?

Anti-features like copying a location being a gmaps unique URL instead of the actual location

Re: A Post-Google World?

#109
> However, it does mean that Google will have to give up on its mission, “to organize the world's information.” Though that slogan looks benign, it is in fact anything but. Being the organizer of the world’s information is far far too much power for anyone to have. It’s time to give up on it.

Giving up on that is stupid, and would set society back. We need more companies and organisations doing it. AI has brought a few new startups into the search space, but yes, splitting the companies up may make more opportunities for them.

That said, if you can raise the capital you can get into search, because of opportunities presented by AI, and google has been sacrificing quality for optimising ad revenue. Email has also seen some startups making big leaps by adopting AI. I wouldn't touch video sharing platforms, or ad networks.

Re: A Post-Google World?

#110
It does seem like their cash cow is facing a bit of an existential risk. Things like kagi and perplexity work just as well as search if not better.

And if google search collapses then the rest of the empire won’t be far behind

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