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Re: A Post-Google World?

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Post by tantalor »

ethbr1 wrote: post #106
animal_spirits wrote: post #101

> video sharing, mapping, mobile phones, and the other Google infrastructure. These are all areas ripe for innovation and disruption, This is incredibly wrong. We've had mountains of innovation in all of these areas under Google's leadership and from competitors like Apple, Mapbox, Microsoft, AWS, etc. When Google ends up costing more to use, competitors will _not_ need to innovate to attract customers to their platf…

What innovation has happened in Maps in the last 19 years? Aside from buying Waze in 2013?

Streetview was only 17 years ago.

Re: A Post-Google World?

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Post by eastbound »

winddude wrote: post #109

> However, it does mean that Google will have to give up on its mission, “to organize the world's information.” Though that slogan looks benign, it is in fact anything but. Being the organizer of the world’s information is far far too much power for anyone to have. It’s time to give up on it. Giving up on that is stupid, and would set society back. We need more companies and organisations doing it. AI has brought a f…

After traveling through the middle east: Google is far from present here, it’s Yandex territory. And I bet Asian countries can be conquered by Chinese companies the same way.

Re: A Post-Google World?

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Post by metadat »

winddude wrote: post #109

> However, it does mean that Google will have to give up on its mission, “to organize the world's information.” Though that slogan looks benign, it is in fact anything but. Being the organizer of the world’s information is far far too much power for anyone to have. It’s time to give up on it. Giving up on that is stupid, and would set society back. We need more companies and organisations doing it. AI has brought a f…

> Google'a mission "to organize the world's information"

Google already gave up on this long ago. Their mission now is to print as much money as possible (late stage capitalism).

It's unfortunate, because 2004-2014 was unlike anything we'd seen before, even in the dot-com days. Compared to anything before or since, ElGoog was Incredibly good for the 10's of thousands of rank-and-file employees.

Thanks Ruth Porat! (For serving as the instrument that ended the party.. at the board's request, ofcoz.)

Re: A Post-Google World?

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Post by metadat »

eastbound wrote: post #112
winddude wrote: post #109

> However, it does mean that Google will have to give up on its mission, “to organize the world's information.” Though that slogan looks benign, it is in fact anything but. Being the organizer of the world’s information is far far too much power for anyone to have. It’s time to give up on it. Giving up on that is stupid, and would set society back. We need more companies and organisations doing it. AI has brought a f…

After traveling through the middle east: Google is far from present here, it’s Yandex territory. And I bet Asian countries can be conquered by Chinese companies the same way.

I have to use Yandex almost daily, because Google has stopped indexing a massive amount of the Internet.

It's almost more useless than Yahoo was after Google came along, which is crazy.

Re: A Post-Google World?

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Post by eastbound »

ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #102
soared wrote: post #6

Generally an excellent and accurate write up, nervous/excited to see where this goes. A bit over the top with some of the things google has done in the programmatic space, but aligns with reality. I disagree with the display/programmatic space innovations being held back by google - there are an insane amount of small players who are doing different things and it’s easy to integrate them into the existing space. IE i…

Can't wait for Google to be broken up and made an example of. Same with Amazon soon, I hope.

And the CIA not being able to read the Google Docs spreadsheets of all companies, NGOs and diplomats of the world?

Re: A Post-Google World?

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Post by tikhonj »

ethbr1 wrote: post #106
animal_spirits wrote: post #101

> video sharing, mapping, mobile phones, and the other Google infrastructure. These are all areas ripe for innovation and disruption, This is incredibly wrong. We've had mountains of innovation in all of these areas under Google's leadership and from competitors like Apple, Mapbox, Microsoft, AWS, etc. When Google ends up costing more to use, competitors will _not_ need to innovate to attract customers to their platf…

What innovation has happened in Maps in the last 19 years? Aside from buying Waze in 2013?

One thing I appreciate is how much better maps have gotten for non-drivers: bike and pedestrian paths, public transport (especially live schedules, delays, alerts) and legitimately good directions generated for walking, biking and taking transport.

I believe that using wifi to improve localization on phones also happened within the last 19 years—quick Google found me an article from 2010 about how they started gathering data for this in 2007. I definitely remember this having a real improvement on how accurate my phone's location could be, which made using maps much nicer day-to-day.

Re: A Post-Google World?

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Post by 8organicbits »

Mochsner wrote: post #108
ethbr1 wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What innovation has happened in Maps in the last 19 years? Aside from buying Waze in 2013?

Anti-features like copying a location being a gmaps unique URL instead of the actual location

Ads in the map is another.

Re: A Post-Google World?

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Post by accurrent »

ethbr1 wrote: post #106
animal_spirits wrote: post #101

> video sharing, mapping, mobile phones, and the other Google infrastructure. These are all areas ripe for innovation and disruption, This is incredibly wrong. We've had mountains of innovation in all of these areas under Google's leadership and from competitors like Apple, Mapbox, Microsoft, AWS, etc. When Google ends up costing more to use, competitors will _not_ need to innovate to attract customers to their platf…

What innovation has happened in Maps in the last 19 years? Aside from buying Waze in 2013?

Pedestrian navigation, much better quality maps, faster load times etc.

I also occassionally enjoy the AR features for walking in cities.

Re: A Post-Google World?

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Post by hootz »

Google is so unusable right now that I couldn't care less. I just started paying for Kagi and it's excellent. I forgot how it's possible for a search engine to just find the information I want without blasting my eyes with corporate slop.

Re: A Post-Google World?

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Post by accurrent »

eastbound wrote: post #112
winddude wrote: post #109

> However, it does mean that Google will have to give up on its mission, “to organize the world's information.” Though that slogan looks benign, it is in fact anything but. Being the organizer of the world’s information is far far too much power for anyone to have. It’s time to give up on it. Giving up on that is stupid, and would set society back. We need more companies and organisations doing it. AI has brought a f…

After traveling through the middle east: Google is far from present here, it’s Yandex territory. And I bet Asian countries can be conquered by Chinese companies the same way.

China, Korea and Japan have never depended on google for search. Baidu, Naver and Yahpo reign supreme. Their bussiness model is very similar to goofle tbf.

ASEAN and India however rely on google heavily. Googles ad based subsidies for their other products mean that less well of consumers can have access to technology as well. I worry that the freebies will be very hard for many people to ween of.

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