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Ford patents in-car system that eavesdrops so it can play you ads

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Post by wruza »

garbagewoman wrote: post #47
wruza wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why hate the guy? He has a real repair shop afaik, and mostly talks sense.

If you know the vaguest thing about the topic he is talking about, you will know that he frequently omits critical context in order to get clicks. I am guessing that is what you mean by “mostly talks sense”

There’s an effect (forgot the name) when you read an article about your area of expertise and think it’s awful. But then you read something you don’t know in the same journal and its okay. Are you sure that’s not the case here?

I mean, I don’t watch Louis and blocked him due to my non-interest and him being populist-ish with auditory, but talking this way about him is too much, imo.

Re: Ford patents in-car system that eavesdrops so it can play you ads

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Post by nprateem »

bryanrasmussen wrote: post #109
nprateem wrote: post #37

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That's literally why patents exist.

yes, but there are also reasons why irony exists. Especially if you layer it just right.

Ironically I don't think think you know what irony is.

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Post by nijave »

leobg wrote: post #74
kaliqt wrote: post #57

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I disagree. I hate irrelevant ads, I enjoy relevant ads. This is unrelated to the aforementioned topic though.

Relevant ads is functional search, is it not? Ideally, search without the need to query.

They're also 1st party and come with whatever bias the company wants to inject (less useful if you prefer searching through 3rd parties)

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Post by psychoslave »

yashg wrote: post #30

Everything is becoming about ads. Ads, ads everywhere. On phone, on computer, now even car. This despite everyone knowing that consumers HATE ads. It's like companies are using ads as a ransom. Pay us more money on a regular basis else we will make your life miserable with ads and more ads.

It's more like "we are going to kidnap your children to make them some brain washed slaves, extract money from you with mass spying, ask a ransom with no intention to change what we plane to do if you pay or not"

Re: Ford patents in-car system that eavesdrops so it can play you ads

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Post by Telemakhos »

moandcompany wrote: post #13

The dystopian future of mobility will be free-to-ride, self-driving cars operating as taxis where we have to pay to exit and are incentivized to pay to opt-out of ads.

That sounds like a maintenance nightmare. Owners maintain vehicles, renters have no incentive to, but people who feel trapped in a vehicle that requires an exit fee and treats them adversarially with ads will feel incentivized to vandalize the vehicle.

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Post by jajko »

agys wrote: post #107

Not directly related but a small town in Switzerland decided to ban public advertisement (billboards). The motivation is to avoid visual noise/pollution and “We didn’t recognize any public interest in having billboards”. https://www.msn.com/en-ph/money/markets/a-swiss-town-banned-...

Well whole country has pleasantly few ads everywhere. No ads along roads and highways for example. Drive to eastern more primitive parts of EU and many massive billboards will try to steal your attention constantly, everywhere.

One of easy examples of corruption in plain sight, yes mostly nobody cares.

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Post by garbagewoman »

wruza wrote: post #111
garbagewoman wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you know the vaguest thing about the topic he is talking about, you will know that he frequently omits critical context in order to get clicks. I am guessing that is what you mean by “mostly talks sense”

There’s an effect (forgot the name) when you read an article about your area of expertise and think it’s awful. But then you read something you don’t know in the same journal and its okay. Are you sure that’s not the case here? I mean, I don’t watch Louis and blocked him due to my non-interest and him being populist-ish with auditory, but talking this way about him is too much, imo.

This isn’t about the effect you are referring to. He has domain knowledge about what he is talking about. He isn’t Fox News 6 Cincinnati.

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Post by autoexec »

DJHenk wrote: post #76
9dev wrote: post #42

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And then, once everyone is paying more, they pull the coup de grace, and show you ads again! Netflix and Prime and Spotify started with this a while ago; I guess the temptation is just too big to let corporate greed run free. I guess we’ve come full circle, and the next iteration will see people pirating stuff again. It’s going to be interesting to see what we can do against ads on devices like cars though…

Ads are a cancer. They take valuable resources from legitimate functionality just to multiply and multiply, until the host is starved to death.

> They take valuable resources from legitimate functionality

Including our own. Ads are designed to pull our attention to them and away from what we want to be focused on. The goal is to forcibly embed something in our thoughts and/or feelings. Maybe it's a lie, or a false association, or an impression, or a fear. One way or another ads seek to manipulate us and like it or not we are all changed by them. We'll have a cure for cancer long before we get a cure for advertising.

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Post by autoexec »

franga2000 wrote: post #96
lm28469 wrote: post #45

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That's what happens when innovation is dead and you need to pay the bills: you have to make current products profitable and the easiest way is to pack them with ads

If the current products aren't profitable already, how does does the company exist? This doesn't really apply in the Ford case, but the real question is why we let companies burn money to get market share, killing existing sustanable businesses in the process? Once no competition is left, they raise prices and decrease quality, ending up with a worse product than we had before.

> Once no competition is left, they raise prices and decrease quality, ending up with a worse product than we had before.

That's the goal of literally every company. They all want to charge you as much as they can possibly get away with, while giving you as little as possible in return because it lowers their costs. Our society has decided that greed is the greatest virtue and the most important consideration in every facet of life. That inevitably results in a race to the bottom.

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