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Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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Post by WillAdams »

password4321 wrote: post #117
bluGill wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean like the pine note? https://pine64.org/devices/pinenote/ The hardware is easy for China, but there is a lot of software that doesn't exist yet, or it exists but is too slow to be usable. If you want to work on that software, then the pinenote is a great deal, order one and get busing writing/optimizing code. If you want a tablet that works the ReMarkable has been around for years.

For those curious, the PineNote is currently $399 + shipping, but out of stock (and has been for some time, not even mentioned on the store home page that includes just about everything else). https://pine64.com/product/pinenote-developer-edition/

Apparently, it was a big loss and probably won't ever come back in stock.

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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Post by fragmede »

paxys wrote: post #33

Looks neat, but not being able to do something as simple as backup and sync without a monthly subscription makes this whole ecosystem a no go for me. Especially for a device that already costs $600-800.

you're not the target market then and that's fine

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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Post by maweki »

yohannparis wrote: post #112
paxys wrote: post #33

Looks neat, but not being able to do something as simple as backup and sync without a monthly subscription makes this whole ecosystem a no go for me. Especially for a device that already costs $600-800.

You can easily sync your handwritten notes to your computer and phone for free using the app. Once synced, you can back them up with your preferred method. The cloud service is designed to be a convenient, set-it-and-forget-it option. Asking for a perpetual cloud synchronization at no cost is bold.

An open API to replicate and automate the app functionality for backup locally is not incredibly much to ask for.

Nobody is asking for a free sync server.

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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Post by mchicken »

yohannparis wrote: post #112
paxys wrote: post #33

Looks neat, but not being able to do something as simple as backup and sync without a monthly subscription makes this whole ecosystem a no go for me. Especially for a device that already costs $600-800.

You can easily sync your handwritten notes to your computer and phone for free using the app. Once synced, you can back them up with your preferred method. The cloud service is designed to be a convenient, set-it-and-forget-it option. Asking for a perpetual cloud synchronization at no cost is bold.

Why is there need for their cloud in the first place? I mean if I already own a Google Drive account, why should I need a pair of hands in the midpoint to drag my data around?

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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Post by kccqzy »

yohannparis wrote: post #112
paxys wrote: post #33

Looks neat, but not being able to do something as simple as backup and sync without a monthly subscription makes this whole ecosystem a no go for me. Especially for a device that already costs $600-800.

You can easily sync your handwritten notes to your computer and phone for free using the app. Once synced, you can back them up with your preferred method. The cloud service is designed to be a convenient, set-it-and-forget-it option. Asking for a perpetual cloud synchronization at no cost is bold.

You do know that Apple provides 5GB free cloud synchronization right? And Google also has 15GB free. For those who value convenience this is now table stakes to provide free cloud sync for small amount of data. And frankly 5GB is enough for handwritten notes.

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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Post by [deleted] »

paxys wrote: post #33

Looks neat, but not being able to do something as simple as backup and sync without a monthly subscription makes this whole ecosystem a no go for me. Especially for a device that already costs $600-800.

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Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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Post by Almondsetat »

Rinzler89 wrote: post #103
Almondsetat wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The entire point of these devices is the tailored software experience, I don't know where your suggestion comes from

It comes from the fact that I'm tired of subscriptions, and some SW being "tailored made" is not always synonymous with very high quality. Community developed FOSS SW can sometimes be better quality and more functional than commercial SW. For example I see KDE as being far superior than whatever Microsoft is doing now on the Windows desktop side, where one is free developed by the community and the other costs money…

Your examples are misinformed.

First of all, you are comparing two desktop environments that have been around for almost the same amount of time. KDE is extremely mature, both because of its age and its popularity. This is not the case with some niche e-ink products.

Secondly, you cannot even remotely compare the software needed for document rendering with the one for hand writing. The former is a very mature ecosystem and you can just write a UI on top of muPDF and port it to your platform to have a feature complete solution. The latter instead requires a wealth of expertise in how humans write and draw to develop both the drivers and the user land applications. Take the Librem phone or the PinePhone as exampleS. it took nothing to port Firefox or GIMP or DOOM to them, and yet the feel of their UI is terrible. Writing your PIN to unlock them lags, inputs are laggy, moving across the UI is slow and buggy. They are worse than the first iphone from almost 20 years ago, even though plenty of good developers have worked on them

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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Post by Scene_Cast2 »

ducktective wrote: post #5

Is this suitable for reading technical pdf textbooks (math, programming, etc)? Last I checked the screen size was smaller than A4 and ReMarkable had a focus on writing and taking notes rather than displaying books... So any suggestions here?

I've had a remarkable tablet. I'm very much waiting for the Supernote A4 x2. There's also BOOX Tab X and BOOX Max 3 if you want a 13.3" today.

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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Post by mattkevan »

jks wrote: post #22

Would be interesting to hear from someone who has compared this and https://daylightcomputer.com/

I’ve got a RM2 and a Daylight tablet.

In ambient light the contrast is worse on the Daylight than the RM2 - the screen background is quite significantly darker.

However, the Daylight has a backlight which increases the contrast enormously. And it’s usable in the dark which the RM2 is not. The much faster refresh rate also gives it a more fluid feel.

What I didn’t anticipate is the difference the screen makes in how I use and perceive them:

As the RM2 is so simple and static it feels more like a notebook or book reader that happens to be battery powered, whereas the Daylight is definitely a gadget.

I’m more likely to use the RM2 to take notes or do some thinking and the Daylight as something to tinker with.

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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Post by WillAdams »

jonahbenton wrote: post #107
kotaKat wrote: post #88

Loving the dark pattern that it "starts at $579" and then the 'buy now' page tries to default you to adding on additional options that bump that up to over $700...

A big issue is that it requires a new pen. The earlier pens are not compatible. I use a 3rd party pen with the RM2, much better ergonomics, but not clear what now will work.

That is a big disappointment --- for a while it looked as if everyone would standardize on the new generation of Wacom EMR (w/ 4096 pressure levels) so that a Staedtler Noris Digital or Lamy Wacom EMR stylus works w/ a wide variety of devices --- I use them on:

- Samsung Galaxy Note 10+

- Kindle Scribe

- Samsung Galaxy Book 3 Pro 360

- Wacom One (attached to my MacBook)

and I couldn't count the number of styluses I have floating around my home/office.

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