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Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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Post by Almondsetat »

Rinzler89 wrote: post #51
mtrovo wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did they announce they're locking this new device? I have a remarkable 2 and it's basically a stripped down version of Linux that you can SSH in and install whatever you want on it.

This feels like something some Chinese company can put out at much cheaper price, just a barebones large e-ink tablet, for hackers and tinkerers, with some linux distro with touch support, unlocked bootloader and ssh, powered by a microcontroller with mainline linux support, no fancy apps, no cloud service and no subscription, where they just supply the HW and the community on GitHub builds the SW for it, a-la RPi.

The entire point of these devices is the tailored software experience, I don't know where your suggestion comes from

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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Post by bluGill »

Rinzler89 wrote: post #51
mtrovo wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did they announce they're locking this new device? I have a remarkable 2 and it's basically a stripped down version of Linux that you can SSH in and install whatever you want on it.

This feels like something some Chinese company can put out at much cheaper price, just a barebones large e-ink tablet, for hackers and tinkerers, with some linux distro with touch support, unlocked bootloader and ssh, powered by a microcontroller with mainline linux support, no fancy apps, no cloud service and no subscription, where they just supply the HW and the community on GitHub builds the SW for it, a-la RPi.

You mean like the pine note? https://pine64.org/devices/pinenote/

The hardware is easy for China, but there is a lot of software that doesn't exist yet, or it exists but is too slow to be usable. If you want to work on that software, then the pinenote is a great deal, order one and get busing writing/optimizing code. If you want a tablet that works the ReMarkable has been around for years.

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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Post by panosfilianos »

itomato wrote: post #6

This video shows an interactive demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uyh6KSYVJ4 I'm particularly interested in refresh latency and color gamut. You can get a feel for these here.

I wonder why the folios put the display to sleep.

Afaik, e-ink screens don't use any energy to display, but only to refresh.

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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Post by nihzm »

izacus wrote: post #20
rtpg wrote: post #3

If you have an iPad already you can get screen covers that give your screen a paper feel. Elecom sells them

I have both iPad Air with Paperlike cover and a Boox Note 3C... and the Boox with its color eInk and Wacom pen is SO MUCH nicer to write on and read that it's really not comparable. Also paperlike film for iPad significantly degrades the screen, making it darker and grainy. It's still a better all-around device, but its really not as good as these eInk tablets for writing.

I concur. I switched from the very first remarkable to an ipad pro with paperlike but it's very different and much less paper-like. Also, the paperlike screen protector lost lost 100% of the roughness in just a few months, and now when I write it's basically the same as writing on the glass.

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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Post by loughnane »

mtrovo wrote: post #45
paxys wrote: post #33

Looks neat, but not being able to do something as simple as backup and sync without a monthly subscription makes this whole ecosystem a no go for me. Especially for a device that already costs $600-800.

Did they announce they're locking this new device? I have a remarkable 2 and it's basically a stripped down version of Linux that you can SSH in and install whatever you want on it.

I didn't see any announcment, but I'm in the same boat as you. It's honestly the main reason I don't look at other competitors.

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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Post by Rinzler89 »

layer8 wrote: post #74
Rinzler89 wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

*) in the realm of electrophoretic displays or with strong ambient light, not compared to some 2000 nit OLED in the dark

My reference point is physical paper.

You think e-ink has worst contrast than physical paper? How so?

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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Post by _ph_ »

xur17 wrote: post #57

Anyone that has one of these - does it work with Linux? From Googling it looks like at best it works via wine, but even that is questionable with the latest version. Pretty ready to buy, but this is a pretty big turn off.

The remarkable2 works well with Linux in the respect that the remarkable itself runs Linux and you can just ssh into it.

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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Post by kotaKat »

Loving the dark pattern that it "starts at $579" and then the 'buy now' page tries to default you to adding on additional options that bump that up to over $700...

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

#89

Post by AlanYx »

layer8 wrote: post #15

This uses the E Ink Gallery 3 display, of which you can find many reviews online.

Is this the first mainstream Gallery 3 display tablet (as opposed to Kaleido)? I know BigMe made one but it never caught on.

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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Post by orbital-decay »

krastanov wrote: post #9
rtpg wrote: post #3

If you have an iPad already you can get screen covers that give your screen a paper feel. Elecom sells them

That is frequently enough, but for a lot of folks who are fans of Remarkable, the preference is based on one or more of these three: (1) e-ink for both paper-like visual texture (the pixels are not square) and eye comfort (impossible with traditional screens) (2) single-purpose note-taking without distractions (although some hate that) (3) paperlike haptic feel (the only thing that can be addressed by screen cover on…

I find (1) to be the biggest snake oil of electrophoretic displays. The only case where it's remotely true is direct sunlight. In normal indoor lighting conditions they severely lack contrast/whiteness/blackness compared to a good screen or printed book, and are hugely dependent on proper lighting, for example your hand will give it shadow so you're practically forced to use the frontlight if your device has it (reMarkable doesn't), as it's almost impossible to light evenly and match the background otherwise. In other words, when reading indoors they have all downsides of paper with none of the upsides. It just doesn't work as "paper replacement", it's strictly inferior, and feels like a downgrade compared to modern active displays.

(3) is mostly matter of choice, and it's a feel of matte plastic, very far from actual paper.

(2) is the only reason I'm using it. It's thin (although not as thin as a piece of paper) and single-purpose, a physical product.

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