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Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

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Re: Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

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Post by reginald78 »

anvuong wrote: post #194
spartanatreyu wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ubuntu's snap packages are terrible, they lag and crash. It's like Ubuntu saw the Windows Store (less features, worse performance, unmoderated and not used by anyone) and said we want that too. Just download the thing from whoever's website and you won't run into problems. You can download steam for linux directly on steam (in a .deb package).

But then you'll run the risks of your apps randomly breaking after OS upgrades. A simple Linux headers change can mess up apps installed via .deb files

I've never had this issue with Steam and I've been running it on linux for at least 5 years.

Actually I can't remember having it at all but I only have a handful of things installed through .deb files anyway.

Re: Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

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Post by thefz »

BizarroLand wrote: post #216
thefz wrote: post #181

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We can discuss how this has been implemented all day (and probably agree), but decades in IT have taught me that people use computers differently, especially now that the level of literacy needed to operate one is almost zero. I am good with terminal, browser, NP++ and few other programs, while some people don't even know the existence of a file system hierarchy, or want to touch things to interact with them instead…

Mr. Thefz, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Yet you fail to argument your point.

Re: Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

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Post by BizarroLand »

thefz wrote: post #222
BizarroLand wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mr. Thefz, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Yet you fail to argument your point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft5KtV2o0bw

Re: Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

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Post by jpc0 »

stoobs wrote: post #202
nolist_policy wrote: post #170

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Doesn't sound like a supported configuration to me. Wouldn't surprise me if it breaks one day.

That's how enterprise installations of windows work, and has always been a fully supported configuration. It's just that they've been hiding it more and more for consumer installations in successive releases.

Although this is still true for AD environments, Microsoft has been pushing Entra ( or whatever they call it these days ) hard and would prefer for that to no longer be the case. It's also been getting harder to actually run on-prem AD at a reasonable price point per user.

Effectively, expect even enterprise to be online first with an escape hatch for those customers that need it, obviously only available on E5 or something like that...

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Post by tomrod »

grishka wrote: post #187
tomrod wrote: post #186

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I found a great file that allows me to install Linux!

The only problem with that is that then you have to use Linux.

One person's problem is another person's hidden joy. Didn't they teach you to not yuck other's yum in primary school? :)

Re: Microsoft's 'Recall' feature can't be uninstalled after all

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Post by webworker »

cmcaleer wrote: post #95

Unfortunate. Luckily, Windows itself can be removed. It's incredible how much Microsoft is resting on their laurels in terms of seeing Windows as insurmountable and so consumers must take whatever Microsoft decide to dish out. I would have been totally resigned to this fact a decade ago, but middle-school+ kids these days don't use Windows - they use Chromebooks. A huge minority of them use iPhones. Familiarity with…

As if any chrome product doesn't have telemetry, tracking and AI features built into it.

I don't advocate for any of this stuff, but I guess it's only bad when Windows does all the same stuff, but not ChromeOS.

As for Apple, at least they make an attempt.

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Post by zamadatix »

ChicagoDave wrote: post #209
zamadatix wrote: post #201

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I'll agree they are an incredibly niche example of actually using this... but only because ways to do this right now are incredibly niche. The rest remains to be seen. If there hadn't been decades of normality of browsers storing history then people, particularly those in tech circles, would absolutely flip their shit if it were announced as part of Edge. There would be mass revolts on these forums if it would sync w…

I have Malwarebytes installed and block all trackers in Edge and on my iPhone. The idea of recording my activity on my laptop is something I could see being useful in a business where I’m billing non-stop and this feature would automatically generate invoices. But on my personal laptop? I really can’t think of a single legitimate scenario. More importantly, I think Microsoft should be demonstrating what use cases it…

Recall gives one such example I'd like it for in the intro paragraph on the feature's page:

> Recall’s analysis allows you to search for content, including both images and text, using natural language. Trying to remember the name of the Korean restaurant your friend Alice mentioned? Just ask Recall and it retrieves both text and visual matches for your search, automatically sorted by how closely the results match your search. Recall can even take you back to the exact location of the item you saw.

Of course you're welcome to say this isn't a legitimate scenario for you, just as someone might say no situation is legitimate for them to need browser history, but that doesn't mean there is no legitimate scenario for consumers in general. It also doesn't say much from you beyond "I don't like it".

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Post by lupusreal »

wkat4242 wrote: post #210
cmcaleer wrote: post #95

Unfortunate. Luckily, Windows itself can be removed. It's incredible how much Microsoft is resting on their laurels in terms of seeing Windows as insurmountable and so consumers must take whatever Microsoft decide to dish out. I would have been totally resigned to this fact a decade ago, but middle-school+ kids these days don't use Windows - they use Chromebooks. A huge minority of them use iPhones. Familiarity with…

> It's incredible how much Microsoft is resting on their laurels in terms of seeing Windows as insurmountable and so consumers must take whatever Microsoft decide to dish out. Well no, they actually believe people want this. Microsoft strongly believe in "Data Driven Everything". Of course here in Europe we look very different at this due to privacy concerns. But trying to explain that to the MS consultants I work wi…

People want Microsoft Word but that can be uninstalled. In fact they generally make you pay for it. If people wanted Recall, Microsoft would be making people buy it, not trying to force people to have it.

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Post by webworker »

1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #75
stackghost wrote: post #4

National Defense runs almost entirely on Windows workstations, including "high-side" or classified networks. I can't imagine the powers that be are too thrilled with this feature, and much like the Intel TPM High Assurance bit, I bet there's an undocumented way to remove it.

"National Defense runs almost entirely on Windows workstations, including "high-side" or classified networks." Windows is "military-grade". That's a laugh. In case of doubt I am referring to the US practice of marketing certain products as "military-grade". Perhaps to suggest something like, "If it is good enough for the military, then it is surely good enough for the civilian."

The military does produce innovations that benefit civilians though. Food products would be one thing. GPS is another.
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