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Apparently Brazil only asked for Twitter/X to have a local office (so they could be dealt with inside Brazilian law) and ban like 7 accounts.
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Well no, if someone is a habitual liar or always wrong, then you're free to assume they are lying or wrong. The ordinary opinion of random people is not a court of law where innocence is presumed.
You believe Elon Musk is always wrong? That seems like a bit of a stretch.
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Turkey and India is probably not the best examples humanity want to try to emulate when it comes to human rights. And this is coming from someone born and raised in India.
And yet Musk had no issue complying with local law.
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The claim is that the ban request doesn't actually comply with Brazilian law. I'm no lawyer and don't know how accurate that is, but if correct that Twitter would be complying with local laws by refusing the unlawful order.
The claim by Musk (who is also not a lawyer, nor Brazilian) is that a single renegade Brazilian Suprem Court Justice has made a non compliant unconstitutional ban request. The report here asserts that every single other Brazilian Supreme Court Justice has backed that ban. You may not be a lawyer, like Musk, but I'm led to believe that all the Justices of the Braziian Supreme Court are, and that they understand the Br…
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The earlier order ordered Apple and Google to remove VPN apps.
Yes, and establishes a BRL 50k daily fine for the users themselves if they circumvent the blockage by any means to get access to Twitter. To me, that's punishing the users, who have no part in the legal ordeal, for the incompetence of whatever company or agency which was supposed to block the site.
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I'm no lawyer, but the claim is that the request made by the Brazilian judge doesn't comply with Brazil's own laws. Presumably if X (not Elon) has complied with other censorship requests they found the requests to be lawful.
It's not up to X/Musk to decide that though. If they feel that way, there are legal avenues to pursue. They should always comply with the court orders, then challenge them. Not doing so is breaking the law and should be punished as such.
Twitter has little to gain by complying with the judge's ban before challenging it in court, but they do have a lot to lose. It'd be a different story if Twitter was being challenged by the US Supreme Court, they have mhch more leverage to damage Twitter if they don't comply.
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The issue in Brazil, based on what I read, was that Twitter’s lawyers in Brazil and Elon believed that the requests being made violate Brazil’s constitution. In Turkey and India, there was no such concern.
That is not an argument in a nation of law. If twitter thinks this is unconstitutional in Brazil, then they can by all means sue! Courts are the institutions that rule whether that is true or not, not some billionaire with a bad day.
it went to court, and then the Brazilian supreme court -- and they lost.
Apparently Brazil only asked for Twitter/X to have a local office (so they could be dealt with inside Brazilian law) and ban like 7 accounts.
The judge threatened the company's legal representative with incarceration for a failure to comply, so Musk unappointed the company's legal representative. The judge demands that Musk now appoint a legal representative, which Musk refuses to do. Why would Musk appoint someone for the judge to incarcerate?
Also you can get arrested for breaking the law?
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I'm glad they didn't comply. I don't want social media platforms banning people just because some national government told them to.
I also don’t want companies to have to have offices in every country where they operate. X is big enough but it’s silly of Brazil to require a literal physical presence. They can serve whatever they need electronically to wherever X is these days.
Apparently Brazil only asked for Twitter/X to have a local office (so they could be dealt with inside Brazilian law) and ban like 7 accounts.
I can't believe that no one has mentioned that one of those accounts is a sitting Brazilian Senator.
I have seen the barbarities that some people say in Brazil . It’s an incredibly racist and classist country sometimes.