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#71

2 million new bsky accounts https://bsky.app/profile/bsky.app/post/3l36zm4e6ee2w

Does BlueSky have a legal representative in Brazil?

BlueSky don't have any justice issue. Because of this, don't need representative yet.

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Twitter is not a fundamental right, as access to users isn't a right to a company. If the company wants the product to be available, then it should respect local laws the same way it did in Turkey and India.

Being able to read stuff written by other people is pretty close to a basic human right, though. At least in the liberal Western tradition.

Court says to remove porn child accounts. Racist accounts. Nazists accounts. Musk refuses.

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#73

I'm not sure I agree with Brazil wanting to compel platforms to ban accounts and I don't agree with fining people who try to access the service and if Elon is to be believed, I really don't agree with threatening Twitter's legal rep with prison. Elon is also a hypocrite having done the exact thing Brazil is asking for with India and Turkey in the past and he clearly has no problem inventing reasons to ban people who…

I don't really get the idea behind fining people for using Twitter over VPN's either. That reeks of lawyers unable to understand the basics of how the Internet works. Threatening their legal rep with prison is, however, perfectly reasonable. They have refused to comply with the law several times, were fined several times and have refused to pay such fines several times. With that, they have committed multiple felonie…

What bullshit. Their rep in Brazil doesn't control anything about the platform or make decisions about disbursement of funds. Doing so is simply a variation of nation-state hostage taking.

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#74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does BlueSky have a legal representative in Brazil?

BlueSky don't have any justice issue. Because of this, don't need representative yet.

Who will the justice send a censorship request to?

Re: Brazil Court votes unanimously to uphold X ban. Users switch to Threads, Bluesky

#75

I'm not sure I agree with Brazil wanting to compel platforms to ban accounts and I don't agree with fining people who try to access the service and if Elon is to be believed, I really don't agree with threatening Twitter's legal rep with prison. Elon is also a hypocrite having done the exact thing Brazil is asking for with India and Turkey in the past and he clearly has no problem inventing reasons to ban people who…

I don't really get the idea behind fining people for using Twitter over VPN's either. That reeks of lawyers unable to understand the basics of how the Internet works. Threatening their legal rep with prison is, however, perfectly reasonable. They have refused to comply with the law several times, were fined several times and have refused to pay such fines several times. With that, they have committed multiple felonie…

The earlier order ordered Apple and Google to remove VPN apps.

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#76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

BlueSky don't have any justice issue. Because of this, don't need representative yet.

Who will the justice send a censorship request to?

They won't, cos it's STILL not censorship, much though the right-of-center machinery would love everyone to believe it is.

Re: Brazil Court votes unanimously to uphold X ban. Users switch to Threads, Bluesky

#77

Apparently Brazil only asked for Twitter/X to have a local office (so they could be dealt with inside Brazilian law) and ban like 7 accounts.

I'm glad they didn't comply. I don't want social media platforms banning people just because some national government told them to.

> I don't want social media platforms banning people just because some national government told them to.

Luck for you it was not the national government who banned someone on a social media platform, it was a Court of Justice.

They can send someone to jail, expel someone who is illegally in our country and "banning people" on twitter is what gets you? Weird hill to die on.

Re: Brazil Court votes unanimously to uphold X ban. Users switch to Threads, Bluesky

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post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who will the justice send a censorship request to?

They won't, cos it's STILL not censorship, much though the right-of-center machinery would love everyone to believe it is.

Ok, removal request then.

Re: Brazil Court votes unanimously to uphold X ban. Users switch to Threads, Bluesky

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post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't really get the idea behind fining people for using Twitter over VPN's either. That reeks of lawyers unable to understand the basics of how the Internet works. Threatening their legal rep with prison is, however, perfectly reasonable. They have refused to comply with the law several times, were fined several times and have refused to pay such fines several times. With that, they have committed multiple felonie…

What bullshit. Their rep in Brazil doesn't control anything about the platform or make decisions about disbursement of funds. Doing so is simply a variation of nation-state hostage taking.

Well, that's how being a legal representative of any company in the World works.

Re: Brazil Court votes unanimously to uphold X ban. Users switch to Threads, Bluesky

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't really get the idea behind fining people for using Twitter over VPN's either. That reeks of lawyers unable to understand the basics of how the Internet works. Threatening their legal rep with prison is, however, perfectly reasonable. They have refused to comply with the law several times, were fined several times and have refused to pay such fines several times. With that, they have committed multiple felonie…

The earlier order ordered Apple and Google to remove VPN apps.

Yes, and establishes a BRL 50k daily fine for the users themselves if they circumvent the blockage by any means to get access to Twitter.

To me, that's punishing the users, who have no part in the legal ordeal, for the incompetence of whatever company or agency which was supposed to block the site.

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