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Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky

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Re: Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky

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Post by _heimdall »

seanvelasco wrote: post #562

I like Bluesky, its devs, and its tech. I even built a third-party web client for it in Solid.js. But I find Bluesky to be too toxic. There's too much unwanted nudity, even if all my filters are turned on.

That's really the core of the social media problem though. Social platforms are asked to, and signing themselves up to, walk the fine line between free speech and content moderation.

Ultimately they are private platforms and as far as I'm concerned they can censor as much or as little as they want, but its a fundamental problem of any algorithmically managed feed of user generated content. There's no easy fix there and you'll always piss of a large chunk of the population.

Re: Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky

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Post by kaladin-jasnah »

bananamerica wrote: post #630
verdverm wrote: post #70

I left Xitter about 6 weeks ago and went all in on Bluesky. Took time to give feedback to the algo, but it's doing much better these days. I don't feel like I'm missing out on much, you'll get the same news & events on Bluesky. A lot of people who were scared of losing their following are reporting more, better engagement with lower follower counts. What I really like about it is the ATProto, which while imperfect, s…

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Reddit can still be a great place to discuss hobbies and foment helpful and insightful discussion in my experience. While the platform has its flaws, I don't see it being wrong to try and replicate.

Re: Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky

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Post by alemanek »

declan_roberts wrote: post #115
verdverm wrote: post #70

I left Xitter about 6 weeks ago and went all in on Bluesky. Took time to give feedback to the algo, but it's doing much better these days. I don't feel like I'm missing out on much, you'll get the same news & events on Bluesky. A lot of people who were scared of losing their following are reporting more, better engagement with lower follower counts. What I really like about it is the ATProto, which while imperfect, s…

Blueskey seems to have all of these neat features that developers/nerds seem to like, but literally nobody else cares about.

Well the normal folks will care when one of the nerds creates something personally useful to them. Then that becomes the killer feature that makes the platform sticky.

Will this happen? No clue but it is cool to see someone innovating in this space. Let’s see what people come up with.

Re: Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky

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Post by darthrupert »

XorNot wrote: post #554
torginus wrote: post #528

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I really effing hate the idea that competition is created not because people with entrepreneurial spirit think they can do what SpaceX does cheaper and better, but because the guy running the show is politically undesirable and untrustworthy.

But that's not the issue: the issue is that Musk alienated almost the entire core demographic who wanted to buy Tesla's, wanted to support electric cars and were more or less completely primed to freely promote the entire brand. He is a man who owns an electric car company but has been pushing climate change denialism as his political position and supporting politicians who do. There's competition because Tesla is no…

I dislike Musk like many others, but I think Teslas are still the best EVs out there.

Re: Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky

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Post by darthrupert »

XorNot wrote: post #554
torginus wrote: post #528

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really effing hate the idea that competition is created not because people with entrepreneurial spirit think they can do what SpaceX does cheaper and better, but because the guy running the show is politically undesirable and untrustworthy.

But that's not the issue: the issue is that Musk alienated almost the entire core demographic who wanted to buy Tesla's, wanted to support electric cars and were more or less completely primed to freely promote the entire brand. He is a man who owns an electric car company but has been pushing climate change denialism as his political position and supporting politicians who do. There's competition because Tesla is no…

I dislike Musk like many others, but I think Teslas are still the best EVs out there and it's very possible that my next one is a Tesla too.

Re: Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky

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Post by darthrupert »

sapphicsnail wrote: post #133
pqdbr wrote: post #72

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More power to him. He’s making the hard choices and paying a steep price for actually standing for free speech like no other big tech does.

Doesn't he punish accounts that use the words cis and cisgender? I don't really understand how anyone can argue he's a free speech advocate in 2024.

I think that was a joke trying to play with the dumb idea where using certain words makes you deserve punishment.

Re: Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky

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Post by enaaem »

slowhadoken wrote: post #296
threeseed wrote: post #291

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Because X is not complying with the law in that country. Whether the law is right or not is irrelevant. You either comply or leave.

Wow sounds totalitarian. Maybe it’s for the best that Musk disassociates with Brazil.

If they just had more oil, then US could bring them democracy.

Re: Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky

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Post by aguaviva »

lossolo wrote: post #600
bad_user wrote: post #572

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You can't criticize Israel or you will get punished by government in US. Where is your freedom of speech in this case? "The U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday declined to revive a newspaper's challenge on free speech grounds to an Arkansas law requiring state government contractors to pledge not to boycott Israel, a policy the publication's lawyers called a threat to a constitutionally protected form of collective protest…

You can't criticize Israel or you will get punished by government in US.

This is hyperbolic and obviously false.

Brain-dead and authoritarian though the anti-BDS legislation is -- it is ultimately a corner case with very narrow applicability.

On the whole, you are perfectly free to criticize Israel in the U.S., and of course countless people have been doing just that for multiple decades.

Re: Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky

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Post by signatoremo »

chipdart wrote: post #61
morkalork wrote: post #59

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Your new digital town square brought to you in part by the House of Saud, where there's free speech for everyone but some accounts are more equal than others and cisgender is a slur.

Saudi Arabia is of course Twitter's second largest shareholder. But Twitter is also owned by Russian oligarchs linked to Putin himself. https://www.dw.com/en/what-do-xs-alleged-ties-to-russian-oli... We're talking about Elon Musk's Twitter, who around the time of Russia's invasion of Ukraine was found to have hardcoded censorship of pro-ukraine content as well as users who posted pro-Ukraine content on Twitter.

The majority of pro-Ukraine content used by journalists are on Twitter. Has always been the case since the very beginning of the war. Take a look at any article on TWZ, like the most recent one:

https://www.twz.com/news-features/ukraine-pushing-slowly-wes...

Re: Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky

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Post by bentcorner »

hypnotist wrote: post #334

I am surprised no one mentioned nostr. https://nostr.com/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostr supposedly more distributed and censorship resistant than bsky. https://thenewstack.io/bluesky-vs-nostr-which-should-develop...

I tried it and was shortly spammed with crypto-bro messages. Interesting tech but a bad product.
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