I’m glad I don’t live in Brazil. Why ban X? It makes no sense.
Because X is not complying with the law in that country.
Whether the law is right or not is irrelevant. You either comply or leave.
Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky
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#292It saddens me the Brasil banned X because of racism, anti-semitism and hate-speech. But X is still not banned in the west. At some point we have to come to this realization in the west that absolutism is never the answer. Free speech is good upto certain extent, the way it was at Twitter before the rich and powerful took over. Moreover, it is content moderation and it doesn't have anything to do with free speech.
> It saddens me the Brasil banned X because of racism, anti-semitism and hate-speech. But X is still not banned in the west. From what I've read, that was not exactly what's happening with Elon Musk's Twitter in Brasil. From what I've gathered, Brasil informed Elon Musk's Twitter that in order to comply with Brasil's law regarding disinformation, libel, and propaganda, they had to appoint a legal representative to be…
“It closed its office in Brazil earlier this month, saying its representative had been threatened with arrest if she did not comply with orders it described as "censorship" - as well as illegal under Brazilian law.
Justice Moraes had ordered that X accounts accused of spreading disinformation - many supporters of the former right-wing president Jair Bolsonaro - must be blocked while they are under investigation.
He said the company's legal representatives would be held liable if any accounts were reactivated.”
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y3rnl5qv3o.amp
They wanted Musk to appoint a legal representative so they could throw them in jail.
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#293I’m glad I don’t live in Brazil. Why ban X? It makes no sense.
People used it to organize an attempted coup against a democratically elected government and twitter is not cooperating with the investigation.
I’m pretty sure that’s the CIA’s job. Isn’t it because Brazil doesn’t have free speech so they have absurd “hate speech” laws similar to the ones that are backfiring in Scotland right now?
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#294Several folks in Brazil had much to choose from out of Threads, Mastodon and Bluesky as alternatives to Twitter / X. Now that X got banned in Brazil and to potentially lose over 100M+ users we are starting to see which platforms they are choosing to sign up to. So far, Bluesky is seeing a surge in user registrations after the invite system was lifted a year ago. I would expect Threads to also see a surge in registrat…
Mastodon was dead from the start, it isn’t in the running. Threads has too big of an image problem to overcome. No one wants Instagram for Twitter. Bluesky is the only platform currently that has a chance, but it’s an under funded, tiny team who can’t ship on time. Bluesky will see a surge in registrations but no change in DAU as they still haven’t supported video, so no one will stay on the site.
> No one wants Instagram for Twitter
It has about 200M MAU. So a lot of people clearly do want it.
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#295Copying over my latest backend status update; figure folks would find it interesting Servers are holding up so far! Fortunately we were overprovisioned. If we hit 4mm new signups then things should get interesting. We did have some degradations (user handles entering an invalid state, event-stream crashed a couple times, algo crashed a couple times, image servers hit bad latencies) but we managed to avoid a full outa…
It's frustrating that anything related to X/Twitter is such a predictably-partisan tinderbox because this is really interesting technical information. Thank you for sharing it!
It's partisan/political because Musk is partisan/political. And it's not just Musk.
We've been living in a fantasy land of "no political affiliation" in the tech world for decades, and now that the age of the hyper-rich has come once again, they are realizing the benefits of using the power they wield to shape the worlds they live in.
So now in the early stages of this century's great fight, we'll see our beloved tech giants join the political fray in full force, dragging their follower armies along for the ride.
And it works, too. Just look at the comments here.
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#296I’m glad I don’t live in Brazil. Why ban X? It makes no sense.
Because X is not complying with the law in that country. Whether the law is right or not is irrelevant. You either comply or leave.
Wow sounds totalitarian. Maybe it’s for the best that Musk disassociates with Brazil.
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#297Earlier quoted context omitted.
"censor political opponents" is the most intellectually dishonest take, and in it lies the whole root of the discussion. Said opponents' accounts were asked to be shut down, not because they are opponents, but because they were being used to commit crimes against the electoral justice. The Supreme Court is a lifetime seat meant to not be caught in bi-yearly electoral politics, so it can oversee it, this current judge…
>Said opponents' accounts were asked to be shut down, not because they are opponents, but because they were being used to commit crimes against the electoral justice. What are the "crimes" they're being accused of? Getting the opposition locked for "crimes" is basically authoritarianism 101. See: Venezuela[1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Venezuelan_presidential_e...
Crimes like calling the current president a condemned criminal. Which he once was. I watched them arrest him, and I watched multiple judges condemn him. Then these judges erased his crimes due to some technicality and made him innocent again, and we're all supposed to just magically unring the bells and wash our memories of these facts, or be censored.
Crimes like calling the current president a friend of dictators. Which he is. This guy rolled out the red carpet for the Venezuelan dictator months after he was elected. He also defended his recent "reelection".
Crimes like calling the current president a communist/socialist. Which he is. He literally calls himself one. I even have videos.
It's all "fake news" according to the judges.
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You do know it's about the people who stormed government buildings in a riot to overthrow the government? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Brazilian_Congress_atta... Musk ist protecting the Brazil version of the January 6 rioters of the US.
Sure. Kind of late doing this after a year and a half, don't you think? Maybe Morales did it so it doesn't happen again, but it will anyway on another platform that isn't banned yet.
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#299I'm from Brazil and this judge is totally out of control. I agree that X needs to have a legal representative in Brazil, this is correct anywhere, but he threatened a fine of 200k and imprisonment to the person Musk appointed as representative if his stricture orders were not complied with. He threatened us to pay $9k in fines per day if we use VPN to access X. Unless you are part of the government base, it is diffic…
72% of Brazilians do not agree with the banning of X: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UleMSw8m3o
That’s a random sampling with a tiny group of people. You might as well do an internet poll on a very directed channel.
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#300Earlier quoted context omitted.
Speaking entirely personally as I don't handle those questions at bsky. I couldn't even begin to comment without seeing knowing what the court orders were and what the cases are. Every social company operating internationally runs into this issue, and it's daunting to say the least. So, again, this is not something I decide. What I can say is that the protocol is a neutral global layer for data, which can then enable…
>Brazilian developers fork the Bluesky app and build locally-owned social platforms on the atmosphere. This makes it easy to send thugs to their house and 'encourage' them to comply with any political demand. Jurisdictional arbitrage, particularly sites hosted in America following the first amendment is the only thing keeping anti authoritarian speech alive in authoritarian regimes. https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/aud…
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