I wonder why the title of this HN posting was edited to only include the first sentence of the headline.
Did your car witness a crime? Bay Area police may be coming for your Tesla
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Re: Did your car witness a crime? Bay Area police may be coming for your Tesla
#472Earlier quoted context omitted.
You clearly haven’t received a letter in the mail for $250 because a camera saw you barely not fully stop for a red light right turn at 3am with zero traffic A human in the loop needs to be the first line of defense, if an officer isn’t willing to be in the field to issue the ticket and show up in court to defend it then there shouldn’t be a ticket in the first place, full stop
Or the cases when you are on a motorcycle at 3am and the road sensors don't sense you so at the advise of a police officer, you carefully and safely run the red light. I think we know what's going to happen. I've come to the conclusion that most of the dystopian movies about robots and automation are just [spoilers]. Either way I moved to a very rural and remote location. One of my many hopes is that it will buy enou…
I've had to do this with an electric scooter before. Sometimes the road sensors aren't tuned for very small things... probably because most cars aren't that small.
Re: Did your car witness a crime? Bay Area police may be coming for your Tesla
#473As a somewhat regular user of Waymo, these types of conversations seem like they're going to be more and more in the (sorry!) rearview mirror because we won't own the car nor the cameras that are recording the world as we "drive" around. That's not to say that we should give up fighting for some level of privacy even when we don't own the cars, but seems more likely that legislation would be passed that forces the ve…
> This commentary assumes self-driving cars are here to stay and become the de facto way we drive instead of driving ourselves. This seems like an extremely myopic "tech bubble" take to me. I'm trying to find a way to put this so that it doesn't sound like an attack, but have you been to suburban or rural areas outside of places like SF, NYC or Phoenix? Being reliant on third party transportation, on roads the are of…
https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2022/urban-ru...
> urban areas, defined as densely developed residential, commercial, and other nonresidential areas, now account for 80.0% of the U.S. population
Re: Did your car witness a crime? Bay Area police may be coming for your Tesla
#474LMFAO. My Tesla has been broken into multiple times in the Bay Area, with footage of the perpetrators and their license plate numbers , and the police have refused to investigate and were often unwilling to even accept the footage. And this isn't just me: literally everyone I know with a Tesla in the Bay Area has had a similar experience. The cops do not care, at all. Towing someone's car on the off chance it had vid…
Refactor the police into micro services.
Re: Did your car witness a crime? Bay Area police may be coming for your Tesla
#475Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’m struggling to understand your point, or to imagine many examples which support it. I agree that brief minor parking infringements may occasionally make people’s lives more efficient; but I can’t think of any examples where traffic lights and speed limits need to be routinely disregarded?
You clearly haven’t received a letter in the mail for $250 because a camera saw you barely not fully stop for a red light right turn at 3am with zero traffic A human in the loop needs to be the first line of defense, if an officer isn’t willing to be in the field to issue the ticket and show up in court to defend it then there shouldn’t be a ticket in the first place, full stop
In my city (200k pop) a lot of traffic lights are turned off, or rather blinking orange during the night. The few exceptions keep operating normal for good reasons. We don't have a smart traffic control system in our city so I assume it's the bare minimum and if the light you talk about was red at 3am, then there's a good reason for it.
Re: Did your car witness a crime? Bay Area police may be coming for your Tesla
#476Earlier quoted context omitted.
You clearly haven’t received a letter in the mail for $250 because a camera saw you barely not fully stop for a red light right turn at 3am with zero traffic A human in the loop needs to be the first line of defense, if an officer isn’t willing to be in the field to issue the ticket and show up in court to defend it then there shouldn’t be a ticket in the first place, full stop
Or the cases when you are on a motorcycle at 3am and the road sensors don't sense you so at the advise of a police officer, you carefully and safely run the red light. I think we know what's going to happen. I've come to the conclusion that most of the dystopian movies about robots and automation are just [spoilers]. Either way I moved to a very rural and remote location. One of my many hopes is that it will buy enou…
Just to be safe, you could push the bike, at least with bicycles you're a pedestrian as soon as you don't ride but push it.
Re: Did your car witness a crime? Bay Area police may be coming for your Tesla
#477Earlier quoted context omitted.
The fact that they're doing it at all is completely unacceptable.
Search warrants have existed forever, and allowed police to compel production of certain evidence. This includes breaking into residences or offices. I don't see how towing a car is any different. Unless you think search warrants themselves are "completely unacceptable", I don't see how towing teslas should be singled out.
Yeah, but if you punish me for being a witness, I'll try real damned hard to look the other way.
Re: Did your car witness a crime? Bay Area police may be coming for your Tesla
#478Earlier quoted context omitted.
Does gait recognition (and body tics / unique movement style) not make this moot? My sense is that facial recognition is a stop-gap and soon to be superseded, because the tech is there for more holistic 'reads' of a person - And that those subtle things that we humans can't see are actually plain as day and as clear as a fingerprint. If we cover our face, then the data collected on gait etc. will be more than enough.…
A couple of years ago there were news articles that the pentagon has a "lasers that can identify people in a crowd from 200m away based on their heart rate signatures". No idea if that's true or overblown, but it doesnt seem unlikely that such technology becomes possible in the future.
From where did they obtain your or my "heart signature"? What about gait, etc.?
Re: Did your car witness a crime? Bay Area police may be coming for your Tesla
#479Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am hoping for an urban camouflage fashion revolution as a response to more pervasive monitoring: https://www.axios.com/2019/09/07/fooling-facial-recognition-... Public access to object recognition models may be important.
Just FYI, it is illegal to mask your face in New York https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna168590
So it is illegal to wear a hijab / niqab?
Re: Did your car witness a crime? Bay Area police may be coming for your Tesla
#480Earlier quoted context omitted.
> This commentary assumes self-driving cars are here to stay and become the de facto way we drive instead of driving ourselves. This seems like an extremely myopic "tech bubble" take to me. I'm trying to find a way to put this so that it doesn't sound like an attack, but have you been to suburban or rural areas outside of places like SF, NYC or Phoenix? Being reliant on third party transportation, on roads the are of…
https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2022/urban-ru... > urban areas, defined as densely developed residential, commercial, and other nonresidential areas, now account for 80.0% of the U.S. population
They are including suburbs in that number, so that doesn’t really counter the post you are responding to.