Did your car witness a crime? Bay Area police may be coming for your Tesla

Post by mdorazio » Sat, Aug 31, 2024, 6:43 PM UTC

cabbageicefruit wrote: post #53

gruez wrote: post #28

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Search warrants have existed forever, and allowed police to compel production of certain evidence. This includes breaking into residences or offices. I don't see how towing a car is any different. Unless you think search warrants themselves are "completely unacceptable", I don't see how towing teslas should be singled out.

Towing cars at all without a very crucial reason should be illegal in general. Taking someone’s transportation that they assume they have access to, without their knowledge, and without them being able to find out until the very second they need that transportation is dangerous. Emergencies happen. If you’re taking someone’s car you better have a damn good reason. And “you accidentally parked in the wrong parking spo…

Post by righthand » Sat, Aug 31, 2024, 6:48 PM UTC

kibwen wrote: post #29

righthand wrote: post #5

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People will move out of the cities onto land where they can remove/shoot down cameras. The cities and policing are too aggressive with their big brother tactics, thinking FUD about crime is a good enough reason to take away privacy from people. It is actually a minority opinion that the country wants this but no one votes in local elections anymore so the minority wins.

> People will move out of the cities onto land where they can remove/shoot down cameras. No, this doesn't help in the slightest unless you're moving to an isolated compound with no contact with the outside world. As soon as you get in your car to drive to the grocery store, you'll be subject to all the same surveillance. And if you're going to try to organize in your community to tear down and outlaw all the cameras…

Post by barbazoo » Sat, Aug 31, 2024, 6:49 PM UTC

lr4444lr wrote: post #31

rbalicki wrote: post #6

Genuine question: What is stopping some small percent of drivers from installing cameras and using ML to identify cars driving dangerously (e.g. speeding, running reds, changing multiple lanes at once, etc.), and when their license plate is identifiable, finding and informing their insurance company? If even a small subset of users did this, and insurers did something with this information, it would substantially dis…

I doubt it'd tell them any more than they already know. These drivers tend to have been given citations already. The real money would be in giving civilians whose footage leads to a successful prosecution for moving violations a percentage of the fine. NYC already has something like this for people who catch too-long idling trucks and photograph/video record it.

Post by rayiner » Sat, Aug 31, 2024, 6:51 PM UTC

rbalicki wrote: post #6

Genuine question: What is stopping some small percent of drivers from installing cameras and using ML to identify cars driving dangerously (e.g. speeding, running reds, changing multiple lanes at once, etc.), and when their license plate is identifiable, finding and informing their insurance company? If even a small subset of users did this, and insurers did something with this information, it would substantially dis…

Post by righthand » Sat, Aug 31, 2024, 6:52 PM UTC

klyrs wrote: post #55

righthand wrote: post #33

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Drones, country where owning a gun is right. I see no post apocalyptic societal leap needed to get to something like this happening. People interested in fiction as the only match for predictions, are significantly overrepresented on HN. Please reference at me that “life will find a way”.

Where you're certainly correct that "people" will move out to the country because of this, it's your insinuation that their number will be noteworthy that I find suspect. And, as it turns out, high prevalence of gun ownership and radically inappropriate use of guns is not unique to either the city nor the country.