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FCast: Casting Made Open Source

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Re: FCast: Casting Made Open Source

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Post by koen31 »

grepexdev wrote: post #21
koen31 wrote: post #17

FCast engineer here. Look forward to FCast receivers on platforms like AppleTV, Roku, Tizen (Samsung), WebOS (LG).

Will there be a receiver for Fire TV too?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CLKVH8GZ/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=fca... personally only tested on a Fire TV Stick but I believe it should be equivalent?

Re: FCast: Casting Made Open Source

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Post by koen31 »

westurner wrote: post #22

How does FCast differ from Matter Casting? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41171060&p=2#41172407 "What Is Matter Casting and How Is It Different From AirPlay or Chromecast?" (2024) https://www.howtogeek.com/what-is-matter-casting-and-how-is-... : > You can also potentially use the new casting standard to control some of your TV’s functions while casting media on it, a task at which both AirPlay and Chromecast ar…

Instead of waiting, hoping that big companies will implement the standard. Just make it as easy as possible to adopt by having receivers for all platforms and making client libraries that can cast to AirPlay, Chromecast, FCast and others seamlessly.

Re: FCast: Casting Made Open Source

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Post by koen31 »

teruakohatu wrote: post #23
koen31 wrote: post #17

FCast engineer here. Look forward to FCast receivers on platforms like AppleTV, Roku, Tizen (Samsung), WebOS (LG).

Are any efforts being made to incorporate this into VLC? Both as a receiver and caster?

Not ongoing but certainly something I am open to.

Re: FCast: Casting Made Open Source

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Post by nsteel »

IshKebab wrote: post #29
riedel wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not use straight UPnP (DLNA). Tons of open source there. The only problem was standardising codecs (also related to the Chromecast spinoff)

UPnP/DLNA seems to be a bit of a disaster protocol wise. As you say the codec support is "eh whatever" which means whether it works or not depends on too many random factors. It's also a massively over-complicated design-by-committee relic. There also isn't a good open source DLNA server (presumably because of the above issues).

That's actually pretty fair. I was ready to jump in and say that miniDLNA is such a server but having looking I see it's actually been unmaintained for 10+ years! It has worked pretty well for me but I think I must have just gotten everything in the right formats years ago so I don't notice the issues I see reported now (I used to just restart it to avoid the notify issues).

Presumably you still need some kind of media server for the fcast receiver to stream from when playing local media, I assumed that would be dlna based but what is the actual idea here?

Re: FCast: Casting Made Open Source

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Post by koen31 »

r-w wrote: post #20

This project comes from FUTO, which is now making a name for itself by releasing and maintaining OSS alternatives like this, as well as sponsoring development of other OSS options. I personally first came across them when Louis Rossmann announced his affiliation. Very excited to see where this goes! As an aside, I wonder what it will take to get the protocol integrated into browsers? I presume Chrome is a foregone co…

Very demo-y https://gitlab.com/futo-org/fcast/-/tree/master/clients/chro... but it works.

Re: FCast: Casting Made Open Source

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Post by oezi »

koen31 wrote: post #19
oezi wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder what is their ecosystem play? Why would Netflix implement this in their app? Why would any TV manufacturer?

I am not counting on anybody to implement this on their TV. We don't have big budgets to pay TV manufacturers to put FCast receivers inside. Instead, I hope to have receivers that the user can install if they wish.

I am more troubled by how you want to get the Cast button into Netflix, YouTube, etc.

Re: FCast: Casting Made Open Source

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Post by koen31 »

oezi wrote: post #36
koen31 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not counting on anybody to implement this on their TV. We don't have big budgets to pay TV manufacturers to put FCast receivers inside. Instead, I hope to have receivers that the user can install if they wish.

I am more troubled by how you want to get the Cast button into Netflix, YouTube, etc.

I am not counting on this to happen quickly if at all. Though if FCast is the thing everyone has access to (regardless of Apple TV, Fire TV, Android TV, etc) then maybe eventually it will happen. If you have a raspberry pi, and old computer or an old phone you aren't using, you can easily convert it into a FCast receiver. Doing the same with Chromecast is more tricky since the protocol is more extensive and most clients verify the certificates of the casting device to be authorized by Google.

Re: FCast: Casting Made Open Source

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Post by koen31 »

akvadrako wrote: post #38
koen31 wrote: post #17

FCast engineer here. Look forward to FCast receivers on platforms like AppleTV, Roku, Tizen (Samsung), WebOS (LG).

What about as a Kodi plugin?

I have seen several attempts at this https://github.com/c4valli/kodi-fcast-receiver being one of them. There is not one provided by FUTO (for now).
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