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A dishwasher can make or break a restaurant (2017)

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Re: A dishwasher can make or break a restaurant (2017)

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Do you have an actual counter point or do you just attack people. What’s the emptiness feel like?

I don't like what you said, so I'll pretend you didn't say anything. What's being intellectually vapid feel like.

Again do you have anything to bring the conversation besides attacks? I do believe in fair wages but I also believe that entry level positions are a tough one, I believe generally the market figures out the correct price eventually. We can make an argument that min wage needs to be increased but thats not was presented in this thread.

"I don't like what you said, so I'll pretend you didn't say anything" Glad you agree your statements follow that logic. Come to the table with real arguments or sit down please.

Re: A dishwasher can make or break a restaurant (2017)

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I think this is terrible mostly because it is inequitable. In Japan, it is customary for elementary school children, all of them, to be doing the food distribution and cleaning. (who is doing what rotates.) https://youtu.be/fze5s1SlqB8?si=lr9eskf1ty9vqE7k&t=123

I think I like this idea in general, especially if children rotate through all the chores. And in moderation, so children have lots of unstructured time to play and learn and socialize on their own.

It’s just for lunch.

Part of why this works is because Japanese school is structured differently from American school. In the US the class of students moves between teachers’ rooms; in Japan the teachers move between classrooms. So things like lunchroom coats that fit the particular students are always in the same place, and the lunch is served in the classroom so you’re only serving a few dozen people.

Re: A dishwasher can make or break a restaurant (2017)

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$10/hr was a bad wage in 2017 too unless you were in an exceptionally low COL area. $12.95/hour in today money. The minimum wage in 2017 was $7.25/hour.

Almost noone in the US makes the federal minimum wage. You should look at local median wages if you want a relevant comparison.

It's about 1.3% of hourly waged workers who are at or below the minumum wage according to the BLS. That number is probably propped up though by the fact that only ~20 states have a minimum wage equal to the federal minimum and most of those are lower population states. After Texas the next largest state with a 7.25 minimum is Pennsylvania then Georgia.

https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/minimum-wage/2022/home.htm#....

https://www.ncsl.org/labor-and-employment/state-minimum-wage...

Re: A dishwasher can make or break a restaurant (2017)

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Water will just get in at the wrist and then the moisture is trapped in the glove, which could be worse.

Versions with longer sleeves exist for this exact reason.

Not when I was a kid, or at least that my parents were willing to buy. Plus I had to clean all the fucking ashtrays. Those gloves got gross af by day 2.

We had a dishwasher but I wasn’t allowed to use it. Too loud.

Re: A dishwasher can make or break a restaurant (2017)

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There is another kind of mistake than can be made besides procedural. My worst safety screwups in foodservice were 2 things: cutting through my fingernail and about 2/3 of my entire fingertip with a brand new chefs knife (looked away at somebody barking something in my ear while rapidly chiffonading basil) and plunging my entire hand into a deep fryer (slipped while wiping down the edge of the oil vat–again, rushing)…

The framing people I knew were all mostly deaf from the saws and nail guns.

Plus bad knees by 40

Re: A dishwasher can make or break a restaurant (2017)

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Funny. My family moved in the summer between 5th and 6th grade. But they didn’t have enough money to pay for my school lunches — my dad was a poorly paid teacher at the local University, and I don’t remember what poorly paid work my mom had. But I discovered that they allowed students to work as dishwashers, and if you did that, then you got your lunch for free — and even allowed to get seconds. That also kept me off…

I think as a society we've come quite far, but if a kid wants to wash some dishes at school under adult supervision for a limited amount of time, I don't see a lot wrong with it. Obviously, it would be better if we could just not make families pay for school lunches, but that's another topic that isn't terribly relevant to this discussion. Do you think you learned any valuable lessons that carried into adulthood? I s…

At least where we were, you needed a special permit to work if you were under 18, and at the time that would allow kids as young as 14 into the workforce. But, they could only work part-time. I did that later during the summer between my sophomore and junior high school years, to buy a car from my parents.

But as a dishwasher in 6th grade, I didn’t have any adult supervision. I worked alone in there. And I don’t think that kids 16 or under should be working without supervision. And I didn’t have a youth work permit, which was most likely illegal.

I don’t know that I learned a great deal as a dishwasher that would be useful in the adult workplace, other than how to efficiently and quickly load a dishwasher. I guess if I had to go back to that kind of work, I could do it again.

Ironically, the car I bought from my parents was a 1974 Chevy Malibu Classic with a 350ci V8 engine, and if I had been inclined to do street racing, that would have been a perfect car to use for that. But I was a straight arrow and I had no flipping idea what I had in my hands, so I just drove it calmly (well, mostly calmly) to and from school and nothing else.

A couple years later, when I was in college, I wasn’t driving it at all, because there was no reasonable parking on campus, and was effectively forced to take the campus bus. So, I ended up letting the car rot, and we ended up paying a towing company $50 to get it out of the driveway and haul it off for scrap.

Re: A dishwasher can make or break a restaurant (2017)

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That's quite a simplification. Labor day didn't become a holiday until after the May Day vs Labor Day debate started. It started as a concept in 1882 but it was not yet celebrated in any significant capacity and most unions pushed to change the day to May day after the Haymarket massacre in 1886. The first state to make it a holiday (Oregon) didn't do so until a year after the debate was already ongoing and it wouldn…

Let's see, where to start. > Specifically the federal government pushed for Labor day over May day and chose to commemorate the one and not the other with a federal holiday because of fears that memorialising the Haymarket massacre would further empower the labor movement which was at its peak in the US at the time. It's absolutely absurd to argue that the labor movement was at its peak in the US in the 1890s. This w…

> It's absolutely absurd to argue that the labor movement was at its peak in the US in the 1890s. This was the era of the Pullman strike--which the government infamously ended by force--

This wasn't just the era of the Pullman strike. This was during the Pullman strike. The federal government specifically tried to push through a labor day federal holiday as a concession to ease tensions during the Pullman strike. They would not push forward May Day as a federal holiday because they saw memorialising the Haymarket Massacre as inflammatory both in general and at that moment in particular given the volatile situation (even though in practice acknowledging the labor struggle's marred history would have been a better bridge towards peace than a concession and a following violent strike break).

> and the Sherman Antitrust Act being used against unions under the theory that they were an illegal monopoly on labor. Labor in the US probably reached its peak after WWII. The 1890s were extremely business friendly.

Yeah the establishment was extremely anti-union. That's why it was the peak of the labor movement at the time. This is exactly the same reason why the late 50s and the 60s were the peak of the civil rights movement at the time. Things were very bad and it was a painful bloody period where the people were rallying with all their might to try and force progress in the right direction. This is the exact time when everyone was out throwing themselves into the gears to try and make the powers that be listen.

> If you are aware of any country that made May day a public holiday before that time please tell me

I don't know of specific countries however the call for May Day to be made a public holiday in all countries was in 1904 and even before that there were demonstrations on May Day in the US and across Europe in the 1890s (in 1890 in particular).

However that's not the important part. The important part is that in the US, even before legal observance, May Day was being observed by unions and those unions would strike on May Day if they weren't willingly given the day off to observe it. Hell the year that Labor day was made a federal holiday, that May Day (before the Pullman Strike had started) there were the May Day riots of 1894 in Cleveland.

And it's not like I'm claiming that May Day was already established outside the US at that point. It grew outside the US later but it was very much an American labor movement holiday and had at that point replaced labor day as the holiday of the worker. Labor day started as a holiday of the worker but the events of the era quickly shifted that date to May Day and Labor day instead became a minor concession from the government and businesses so as to appease workers without giving them the thing they were actively asking for.

Re: A dishwasher can make or break a restaurant (2017)

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Searching for "rinse aid epithelial lining" tends to turn up a bunch of relevant results and research.

Thanks, now to figure out how much rinse aid my dishwasher dispenses....

There usually is some initial setup where you can set how much salt (to help with hard water) and rinse aid the dishwasher should use. You can set the rinse aid to zero.

Re: A dishwasher can make or break a restaurant (2017)

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The framing people I knew were all mostly deaf from the saws and nail guns.

Plus bad knees by 40

I got this: https://www.harborfreight.com/foam-kneeling-pad-56572.html?e.... For $6.99 cheap at twice the price.

Re: A dishwasher can make or break a restaurant (2017)

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Plus bad knees by 40

I got this: https://www.harborfreight.com/foam-kneeling-pad-56572.html?e... . For $6.99 cheap at twice the price.

I just use a piece of styrofoam that was padding in a package.
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