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For that matter, who is going to buy a Windows Phone 8 device now, since there's no reason to believe it will run Windows Phone 9?
For that matter, who is going to buy an Android 2.3 device now, since there's no reason to believe it will run Android 4.0?
> incompatible with current devices Interesting. This may well be the right move for the long-term, but they're going to end up with a lot of angry early adopters right now. Android upgrades look nice all of a sudden.
I think cutting all the legacy is a good move -- start over from scratch. They have the wherewithal to round developer support (and also leverage their Xbox relationships), so cutting baggage is a good idea.
WP7 is much younger than Android and the iPhone. Already they're cutting out the "legacy"?
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Yep. The real tragedy of fragmentation is that Android still lacks any kind of brand power - they're the phone equivalent of yesterday's faceless beige windows towers. If Microsoft actually ship this in 2012, and have someone mildly competent in marketing, I wouldn't be surprised to see most American users once again choosing between MS and Apple.
That's not a tragedy for Google, that's their game plan. They want their apps and services on every "faceless beige box" in the world. The market for cheap generic consumer electronics is not going away.
Not even an upgrade even for the Lumina?
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Microsoft is already eating RIMs lunch without a buy out. A lot of RIM's enterprise software is tailor written for the old BBOS and wouldn't do MS a lot of good.
Which is why RIM is trying to move their expertise into areas such as Mobile Fusion, allowing administrators to managed BYOD in the enterprise. Imagine BlackBerry BES services on your personal Android or iPhone, so you can access your company's assets in a secure manner. It's something RIM is working towards, and is honestly something that Microsoft's culture wouldn't allow.
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I'm not really sure whether it's true or not that Android doesn't have brand power. I mean, it's not as strong as "iPhone", certainly, and I don't have any specs to show, but I sure notice "Android!" on signs in front of cellular shops a lot... and there's a giant green Android robot balloon on the top of a little wireless shop just down the road. Even my non-techie friends say things like "Is that an iPhone or a Dro…
It seems to me, Android phones focus much more on the brand of the device than the platform it is running... "Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch" Ads might mention mention Android but much more verbiage is about the device features and the like. iPhone doesn't need this. RIM really didn't need this. Windows Phone adds I have heard, Nokias are now known for running Windows Phone, I haven't heard many commercials for ot…
"Samsung Galaxy S II Epic Touch 4G Android Phone, Black (Sprint)"
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Epic-Touch-Android/dp/B...
Wow.
I imagine a lot of RIM and Google executives are getting a twitch in their eye right about now. If these new devices live up to their hype I can easily see them supplant Android as the "anything but Apple" option.
Do you really imagine that the hundreds of millions of Android users chose "anything but Apple"?
This mirrors the iPad discussion. People want a device to fill needs. Anyone who thinks this isn't competition with the iPhone is an imbecile.
When Steve Jobs returned to Apple, he made it really clear that Apple's job wasn't to beat Microsoft. Apple then delivered on that assessment and created entirely new markets for themselves. Sadly, somehow, Microsoft went all XOR on our asses. I'm still baffled about how Microsoft is still trying to out-Apple Apple when they've repeatedly proven it's a disastrous strategy (see: Zune). Microsoft are kings of productiv…
That's not the best example to use of Microsoft's failure.
Every time Zune has been brought up for discussion here, I've seen primarily two types of responses...
From people that actually owned a Zune: Fantastic product (better than my Apple iPod).
From people that never owned or tried a Zune: It's absolute crap (I've never seen any of my iPod friends with one).
The iPod users verbal diarrhea was so thick, that MS's marketing department couldn't cut through it. One iPod user would regurgitate it down another's mouth, and soon everyone had fed on the same crap.
Watching their "network effect" was kind of impressive.
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> I'm still baffled about how Microsoft is still trying to out-Apple Apple when they've repeatedly proven it's a disastrous strategy (see: Zune). I don't see how they're trying to out-Apple Apple in this case. They're releasing a mobile operating system for third party vendors to create hardware for. Remove "mobile" and this is the exact same thing they've been doing all along. > Microsoft are kings of productivity s…
> Are you forgetting that they're also still king of the consumer desktop? They're probably still the majority shareholder, but I wouldn't call them kings. And if they are kings, they're leading a dying kingdom. Have you seen the iPad sales numbers recently?
Here are the Q1 2012 numbers:
PC sales [1]: 88.9 million
iPad sales [2]: 11.8 million
About 13% as many iPad sales as PC sales. While the iPad sales are impressive, it doesn't seem like PCs are dying yet.
When Steve Jobs returned to Apple, he made it really clear that Apple's job wasn't to beat Microsoft. Apple then delivered on that assessment and created entirely new markets for themselves. Sadly, somehow, Microsoft went all XOR on our asses. I'm still baffled about how Microsoft is still trying to out-Apple Apple when they've repeatedly proven it's a disastrous strategy (see: Zune). Microsoft are kings of productiv…
Something that corporations around the world would deploy to every single employee in a heartbeat? That's not necessarily up to IT anymore, thanks to the iPhone. To achieve your goal, they would have to build something that those employees insist on bringing to work under pain of termination, as they did the iPhone. Nothing in Microsoft's DNA -- and specifically in Steve Ballmer's DNA -- would permit the creation of…