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Those are just fake account scammers, you won't be able to buy sex or drugs from any of them. And they get banned all the time. Do you have a source or no?
This documentary on the drug trade in Belgium has a segment on the uberisation of drug dealing and shows the usage of telegram for that purpose: https://youtu.be/9-DwggVrt2c?t=2613&si=SBct_5WUZCoJmcgA
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That user seems to be misinformed, and appears to be discussing client-server encryption, not end-to-end encryption. That's unsurprising, because, among the many decisions Durov has made that have baffled cryptographers, attempting to confuse users about the implications of E2E vs. client-server encryption is one of the most notorious.
That user and the user you are replying to are not misinformed. They are perfectly correct. Telegram does not store messages in plaintext. Period. No matter how shrill the cries from Moxie Marlinespike and his adherents, E2EE is not the only form of encryption. MTProto 2.0 is fully documented and everything the user linked described is true.
But specifically, the issue with the likes of today's Facebook and Twitter (no idea about Telegram) is that they do NOT «just passively host the content», in fact they started to actively engage into its editorializing as soon as they switched to using «algorithmic feeds» !
This has even been a pretty big legislative battle in EU a few years ago, when there were attempts to try to legislate «3rd way(s)» between the extremes of dumb hosting and online newspaper :
https://communia-association.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/...
(Anyone has an up to date chart with the current situation, ideally in English ?)
https://communia-association.org/2024/06/10/article-17-five-...
Reading the charges, one jump to my mind as being scary: "Importation d'un moyen de cryptologie n'assurant pas exclusivement des fonctions d'authentification ou de contrôle d'intégrité sans déclaration préalable." - Import of a cryptographic mean that does not exclusively perform authentication or integrity control functions without prior declaration. This to me is a deeply disturbing charge, would that mean that usi…
Interesting take, what counts as «importing» for software ? Is a copy (with source) of open-source software more in danger of being deemed so ?
> Did the maintainers of LUKS do a prior declaration? If not are they likely to be charged if they ever travel to France?
I would assume yes, but the likelihood might depend on their specific circumstances ?
It wasn't that long ago that the USA considered cryptography to be on the same level of danger as weapons wrt export...
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Coerce you into sending something like "All users must upgrade to client version xyz because of a backdoor discovered by the NSA in the encryption used in older clients. I'm not allowed to tell you what it is, however, rest assured, the latest versions do not have this vulnerability." (but do have a backdoor that I've been tortured into adding). And then wait for a scheduled backup with the backdoored client. Though…
I am confident that if I sent a message like that, the top application security and cryptography experts in the world would collectively descend on the Tarsnap source code to figure out what changed.
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That user seems to be misinformed, and appears to be discussing client-server encryption, not end-to-end encryption. That's unsurprising, because, among the many decisions Durov has made that have baffled cryptographers, attempting to confuse users about the implications of E2E vs. client-server encryption is one of the most notorious.
That user and the user you are replying to are not misinformed. They are perfectly correct. Telegram does not store messages in plaintext. Period. No matter how shrill the cries from Moxie Marlinespike and his adherents, E2EE is not the only form of encryption. MTProto 2.0 is fully documented and everything the user linked described is true.
So far the best I've got is something along the line of: if you can get your chats when you log in with a new device, then so can a Telegram employee. With no proof of the claim of course.
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1. Is encryption itself a crime? 2. Presumably Durov was in a meeting with Putin. 2. 1. But there is no war, the war against Ukraine is not a war in legal terms. 2. 2. And there is no charge of meeting with the enemy or anything like that. 2.3. So you are saying that we are talking about the charges in vain, because the political underground is obvious. 2.4. Yes, you are right, that is why we are talking about the ch…
Imagine that Ukraine used a US messaging system for military comms. The head of that company visits Serbia (a country friendly to Russia) and is arrested on some charges that you don't agree with. Will you debate the charges or the consequences for Ukraine? Maybe it's because I live very close to Russia and most of the people here probably don't think about the war every day, but the strategic reality of this situati…
Now, of course that this happens just after the arrest of Durov might just be a coincidence, but you would also think that Macron might want to try to postpone that visit, especially considering the heating up political situation at home :
After Macron dissolved the assembly after very bad for his party European elections, the Left bloc won the legislative elections... but then Macron, after nearly 2 months, just declared that he refused the prime minister they selected, leading to an obviously pissed off Left bloc, most of which is calling for manifestations, and its leading party - basically starting an impeachment procedure against Macron !
> What it means is that European states are going to try to extraterritorially dictate to foreign companies what content those companies can and cannot host on foreign-based webservers It looks like the author failed to grab that Durov asked for the French nationality and therefore is a French citizen who must comply to French law. > Telegram is not the only company in the world which has a social media platform used…
The author is “an adjunct professor of law at Fordham Law School in New York City, where [he] teach[es] cryptocurrency law and practice” [1]. The law professor bit is shocking, given the article basically revolves around it making “zero sense for Durov to do any of these things,” as if criminality is always rational. But crypto has broadly come out in support of Durov [2]. [1] https://prestonbyrne.com/ [2] https://ww…
In this case "crypto" in the title is confusing, since it could be also/instead about the cryptography industry...
This analysis leaves out the fact that Pavel Durov is, with Telegram, in approximately the same position Ladar Levison was with Lavabit. Unlike Meredith Whitaker, Durov actually is in a position to furnish documents to the French government, where he has citizenship. He's in that position because he has repeatedly made deliberate product decisions, to the bafflement of cryptographers around the world, to keep himself…
Indeed. Two of the more common questions I get with Tarsnap are Q. How do I know that Tarsnap is secure? A. Read the source code. Q. Ok, but you're really smart, what's stopping you from putting in a backdoor and hiding it really well? A. I don't want to get tortured, and ensuring that I can't decrypt your data protects *me*.
There is a line in RickAndMorty about this, which I won't repeat here. To paraphrase: the one thing worse than bring tortured for information you have is being tortured for information you don't have.
> What it means is that European states are going to try to extraterritorially dictate to foreign companies what content those companies can and cannot host on foreign-based webservers It looks like the author failed to grab that Durov asked for the French nationality and therefore is a French citizen who must comply to French law. > Telegram is not the only company in the world which has a social media platform used…
The author is “an adjunct professor of law at Fordham Law School in New York City, where [he] teach[es] cryptocurrency law and practice” [1]. The law professor bit is shocking, given the article basically revolves around it making “zero sense for Durov to do any of these things,” as if criminality is always rational. But crypto has broadly come out in support of Durov [2]. [1] https://prestonbyrne.com/ [2] https://ww…
I mean, he got French citizenship despite not fitting any legal requirements, and nobody in the French government has given any explanation on why he got it.
