Speaking of mobile Firefox, they're pursuing this abomination of a UI update for Android too: https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/updates-to-androi...
Mozilla removes telemetry service Adjust from mobile Firefox versions
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On top of that, the recent google monopoly ruling means that most likely Google cannot continue to donate the massive chunk of change yearly to firefox that they have been. That could mean the death of firefox.
Oh wow, how have I not heard of this? I assume Firefox can still strike some deal for revenue sharing of people who choose to use Google on Firefox, though? Or was the money purely for having Google be the default?
The money was for setting the default.
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Oh wow, how have I not heard of this? I assume Firefox can still strike some deal for revenue sharing of people who choose to use Google on Firefox, though? Or was the money purely for having Google be the default?
The money was for setting the default.
Oof, RIP Firefox...
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> possibility of the google money going away That Mozilla seems to actually give a shit about something for the first time in decades speaks volumes to how anticompetitive that deal was.
Without that deal, there wouldn’t be a Firefox. If/when it’s gone, there’s no one capable/willing to fund Mozilla to that amount. Really there’s only 1 other company who can throw that level of money at us and it’s Microsoft. Without Google bidding up the price, doubtful they would pay as much for Bing to be the default search and it’s not like Firefox users would welcome that change. Free software doesn’t work for l…
> Really there’s only 1 other company who can throw that level of money at us and it’s Microsoft.
Doesn't Apple have that kind of money in a big vault that Tim Apple gets to do his Scrooge McDuck impersonation into?
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> possibility of the google money going away That Mozilla seems to actually give a shit about something for the first time in decades speaks volumes to how anticompetitive that deal was.
Without that deal, there wouldn’t be a Firefox. If/when it’s gone, there’s no one capable/willing to fund Mozilla to that amount. Really there’s only 1 other company who can throw that level of money at us and it’s Microsoft. Without Google bidding up the price, doubtful they would pay as much for Bing to be the default search and it’s not like Firefox users would welcome that change. Free software doesn’t work for l…
> Without that deal, there wouldn’t be a Firefox. If/when it’s gone, there’s no one capable/willing to fund Mozilla to that amount.
There's some irony when I read that while my laptop is running Linux Mint, which in my perception is much superior in many ways to the competition.
I agree that Free software needs sponsorship, especially when it is such a fundamental part of interacting with a computer (which a web browser certainly is).
I am not certain that this sponsorship coming from a company that wants to undermine it is a good thing.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
> possibility of the google money going away That Mozilla seems to actually give a shit about something for the first time in decades speaks volumes to how anticompetitive that deal was.
Without that deal, there wouldn’t be a Firefox. If/when it’s gone, there’s no one capable/willing to fund Mozilla to that amount. Really there’s only 1 other company who can throw that level of money at us and it’s Microsoft. Without Google bidding up the price, doubtful they would pay as much for Bing to be the default search and it’s not like Firefox users would welcome that change. Free software doesn’t work for l…
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#27Personally, I'll judge how worried they are about money by how much the CEO's pay changes. Constantly acting like they're about to be on the rocks when their CEO is taking home almost $7m in compensation per year is laughable, especially considering they made less than $1m for much of Mozilla's lifetime, and their raise to $2m made headlines not that many years ago.
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#28I really wish librewolf would make a version of the firefox beta android apk...
Re: Mozilla removes telemetry service Adjust from mobile Firefox versions
#29Personally, I'll judge how worried they are about money by how much the CEO's pay changes. Constantly acting like they're about to be on the rocks when their CEO is taking home almost $7m in compensation per year is laughable, especially considering they made less than $1m for much of Mozilla's lifetime, and their raise to $2m made headlines not that many years ago.
And they fired the engineers who were actually working on the product. $7m is a nice product team that many startups would kill for.
Fire the CEO. Drop all but 2/3 products. Get off the pot.
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#30It’s really disappointing that they even had this, and is a perfect example of Mozilla selling out users to Google, as if it weren’t obvious before. Really no reason to use Firefox over Chromium or Safari as far as I can see. I’ve had good luck with Orion on mobile.
I use Firefox primarily to support an independent rendering engine. I also like the extensions offered by Firefox more than any other browser. But I would love to see a better managed, user focused fork of it. Time will tell, but for now I am using Firefox until a better alternative comes along.