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I use Hetzner cloud not because it's European, but because it's great.
Same for me with OVH and Scaleway. Way cheaper than AWS and friends, and they just work.
Lidl's Cloud Gambit: Europe's Shift to Sovereign Computing
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Re: Lidl's Cloud Gambit: Europe's Shift to Sovereign Computing
#292STACKIT is the Lidl cloud. Both companies are part of the Schwarz Gruppe. Their offering is here: https://www.stackit.de/en/ You have to be a company to make business with them. You can not just sign up, you have to contact them first. There was a discussion about STACKIT some years ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30853778 I do not see anything about Gaia-X on their directly website, only when I search for…
Interesting fact, it seems that their price catalog is a PDF https://www.stackit.de/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/240814_STA... and not the usual price calculator other providers offer
Menu -> Compute Engine -> Pricing
Re: Lidl's Cloud Gambit: Europe's Shift to Sovereign Computing
#293Earlier quoted context omitted.
Open Telekom Cloud has at least a great part of the functionality you expect when talking about a cloud provider: VMs (even GPU ones), VPCs, managed databases, block storage, Logging, IAM, API Gateway, Container Engine etc. https://www.open-telekom-cloud.com/
I doubt anyone who was ever customer of their detail telecom services would free-willingly use any services from Telekom ever again.
Re: Lidl's Cloud Gambit: Europe's Shift to Sovereign Computing
#294I think their intention is to be an alternative to OEDIV [0] (Oetker* Daten- und Informationsverarbeitung KG), targeting European companies and governments. If you understand German and want to take a look at OEDIV's remarkable datacenter, der8auer posted a video [1] around two years ago giving a tour through their datacenter. Small but high-quality. This is what Schwarz Gruppe is after, though not as closed as OEDIV…
Presumably pronounced derachter?
Re: Lidl's Cloud Gambit: Europe's Shift to Sovereign Computing
#295Re: Lidl's Cloud Gambit: Europe's Shift to Sovereign Computing
#296I think their intention is to be an alternative to OEDIV [0] (Oetker* Daten- und Informationsverarbeitung KG), targeting European companies and governments. If you understand German and want to take a look at OEDIV's remarkable datacenter, der8auer posted a video [1] around two years ago giving a tour through their datacenter. Small but high-quality. This is what Schwarz Gruppe is after, though not as closed as OEDIV…
>der8auer Presumably pronounced derachter?
Re: Lidl's Cloud Gambit: Europe's Shift to Sovereign Computing
#297Gaia-X is a disaster. The article misrepresents it. Gaia-X is not a framework for what a European cloud should look like. This would be useful. In beautiful EU bureaucratic style It's a framework for how to talk about how a European Cloud could look like. It's not about technical standards. It's about how we can talk about how we can think of maybe eventually deciding on how we can come up with standards that might o…
The entitlement and refusal to listen to other people outside their direct org is mindboggling, its like if everyone at that company still thinks they are the hottest shit and they know everything better. Sadly, they are a gatekeeper. Super frustrating partner to work with
Re: Lidl's Cloud Gambit: Europe's Shift to Sovereign Computing
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What difference does that make, if the parent company is in the US and its executives can be physically compelled to send orders to the local operator?
They license the software to run the cloud , they don’t act run it . Basically a white labeled solution for DC software like OpenStack This is not a new idea and is how Azure(or AWS) always operated in China. The Azure Fabric software is licensed to DCs owned and operated by 21vianet a Chinese company. Microsoft has no control over what happens there. No amount of legal[1] US pressure can make Microsoft give access t…
1. https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/in-the-works-aws-european-s...
Re: Lidl's Cloud Gambit: Europe's Shift to Sovereign Computing
#299How does spark work on this ...
does not seem very fit for large scale.
Re: Lidl's Cloud Gambit: Europe's Shift to Sovereign Computing
#300As for feature parity is concerned, AWS was pretty small at the beginning. Just like some 12 years ago. Even VPCs didn't exist at one point and you could scan whole cloud from your VM.
I have yet to see a company fail because the engineering team failed to build, whatever monolith, MEAN, micro services.
It is almost always the product tier that fails to articulate and envision the product and place it on a pedestal where people can immediately and clearly see the value proposition.
I hope that doesn't happen here.
Some good products in this realm would be Hetzner and Scalway for example which is certainly good engineering no doubt but great product management apparently.
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