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I'll have you know they had maths PhDs design their security, sir. Eight of them! Yeah, it's a bit of a joke.
Yeah, put a geometrician* to do the job of a cryptographer. This is what you get. * I'm being serious, Nikolai Durov's PhD dissertation title was "New Approach to Arakelov Geometry" https://bonndoc.ulb.uni-bonn.de/xmlui/handle/20.500.11811/31... https://arxiv.org/pdf/0704.2030
Is Telegram really an encrypted messaging app?
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Re: Is Telegram really an encrypted messaging app?
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That's the dangerous part. It's a messaging app that took in the function of a social media platform. It did so without robust security features like end-to-end encryption yet it advertised itself as heavily encrypted. Like Green stated in his blog post, users expect that to mean only recipient can read what you say, i.e. end-to-end encryption. Telegram would be fine if it advertised itself as a public square of the…
> a social media platform. It did so without robust security features like end-to-end encryption Most social media platforms doesn't support e2ee. Some chat apps do support e2ee but also requires a god damn phone number to login (yeah so does telegram), this makes "encryption" useless because authorities just ask the teleco to hand out the login SMS code.
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iCLoud can be disabled by MDM profile installed by Apple Configurator at setup.
Looks like an easy task, even your granny can do it.
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If the text appears on your screen I'm pretty sure there are ways for Google to capture it. I don't need to know how android's API works, knowing it probably just makes one blind to the big picture. You have to trust your OS/phone maker not to do a MITM.
Yes, but Google cannot be compelled to turn over data they don't actually have on their servers because the users encrypted it before it arrived with keys Google don't control. Signal could modify the application so a remote flag in the Play store binaries could be triggered to exfiltrate data as well. But the key distinction is the normal path of Signal gives them absolutely nothing they can tell anyone other then t…
Re: Is Telegram really an encrypted messaging app?
#405Re: Is Telegram really an encrypted messaging app?
#406Try the mud puddle test: log into your account on a new device using the password recovery flow. Can you see your old messages? If the answer is yes then law enforcement can too. https://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonykosner/2012/08/05/how-se...
> If the answer is yes then law enforcement can too. Is it technically possible for them to see it: yes Does Telegram let them see it: I don't think so. That seems to be the core issue around Durov being arrested. They probably should implement E2EE for everything. Then they will have a good excuse not to cooperate, because they simply don't have the data.
Re: Is Telegram really an encrypted messaging app?
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Looks like an easy task, even your granny can do it.
It does require a few clicks and passcode entry, https://support.apple.com/en-us/102400
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It does require a few clicks and passcode entry, https://support.apple.com/en-us/102400
Why do you need a Mac and an additional software for this? This is clearly made for corporate users and not for ordinary people.
After an MDM profile is created by someone technical, it can be emailed to the non-technical user and installed with a few clicks and passcode confirmation.
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Also, iMessage is very secure...but then all your stuff is backed up on iCloud servers unless you specifically disable it. That includes all your iCloud encryption keys and plaintext messages. Worse, iPhones immediately start backing up to iCloud when set up for a new user - the only way to keep your network passwords and all manner of other stuff from hitting iCloud servers is to set the phone up with no network con…
Apple devices are also always gossiping about which devices are where
Re: Is Telegram really an encrypted messaging app?
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defcon and blackhat are hacker/computer security conferences started by Jeff Moss (aka DT or Dark Tangent) in 1993 and held at the end of July or early August every year in Las Vegas.... The reason you don't bring your phone is it might get hacked
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