Telegram is genuinely the best general communication platform I have ever used, by far. I really hope he has a good lawyer and this doesn't end up getting essentially murdered for creating it. When you create something that is objectively great, everyone will use it - including bad actors.
Arrest of Pavel Durov, Telegram CEO, charges of terrorism, fraud, child porn
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Re: Arrest of Pavel Durov, Telegram CEO, charges of terrorism, fraud, child porn
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
Telegram doesn't have much to do with E2EE.
Can you, please, elaborate? Wasn't it their main feature and the selling point?
Re: Arrest of Pavel Durov, Telegram CEO, charges of terrorism, fraud, child porn
#33Telegram is genuinely the best general communication platform I have ever used, by far. I really hope he has a good lawyer and this doesn't end up getting essentially murdered for creating it. When you create something that is objectively great, everyone will use it - including bad actors.
Re: Arrest of Pavel Durov, Telegram CEO, charges of terrorism, fraud, child porn
#34I'm genuinely curious to what would happen with Signal if the same bad actors moved to their platform. Would France also be arresting its creators for not properly moderating and giving backdoors?
They also don't have public groups with questionable material, as far as I know
Re: Arrest of Pavel Durov, Telegram CEO, charges of terrorism, fraud, child porn
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
Telegram doesn't have much to do with E2EE.
> French authorities believe that Telegram, under Durov’s leadership, became a major platform for organised crime due to its encrypted messaging services, which allegedly facilitated illegal activities Sounds like it was because of E2EE.
i.e. They refused to turn over chat records that they have server side access to.
It's worth noting that they could do E2EE here for group chats but they don't. Signal does it but telegram wholesale refused to.
Re: Arrest of Pavel Durov, Telegram CEO, charges of terrorism, fraud, child porn
#36Telegram is genuinely the best general communication platform I have ever used, by far. I really hope he has a good lawyer and this doesn't end up getting essentially murdered for creating it. When you create something that is objectively great, everyone will use it - including bad actors.
Re: Arrest of Pavel Durov, Telegram CEO, charges of terrorism, fraud, child porn
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Telegram doesn't have much to do with E2EE.
> French authorities believe that Telegram, under Durov’s leadership, became a major platform for organised crime due to its encrypted messaging services, which allegedly facilitated illegal activities Sounds like it was because of E2EE.
Re: Arrest of Pavel Durov, Telegram CEO, charges of terrorism, fraud, child porn
#38France is arresting people for providing end-to-end encrypted communications? What could possibly go wrong!
Should we enable the Iranian polotical refugee to communicate in secret with her family ?
Should we by warrant enable the possibility to open up messages when pedofiles sell or buy children for sex ?
Nasty questions.