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Telegram founder Pavel Durov arrested at French airport

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Re: Telegram founder Pavel Durov arrested at French airport

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Post by mdhb »

chucke1992 wrote: post #20
codedokode wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If he intentionally cooperated with criminals then it is one thing. But if someone posted something illegal, and nobody reported this, then it obviously is not Durov's fault. If you are too lazy to report illegal content then you should arrest yourselves first.

Basically as he did not provide access to the encrypted messages and communication in Telegram, they accused him for supporting the criminals. That's all to it. It is basically the part of the current politics in EU where they are trying to force access to all encrypted traffic across devices.

Do you have any proof of this whatsoever or are you just making this up?

Re: Telegram founder Pavel Durov arrested at French airport

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Post by lxgr »

greatgib wrote: post #9
Glacia wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I can easily guess that assholes in secret service would probably like very much to use that to blackmail him to add backdoors to telegram Do you unironically believe it's not already backdoored for Russian government?

Since forever I stay suspicious but so far Telegram as an impeccable track record. Never there was a single instance of case where there would be even a suspicion of proof that insider knowledge of conversations was accessed/used. Also, it is clear that Durov is a dissident and personally experienced and run away of the dictatorial state. So I think that it is probably one of the tech personality that I trust the mos…

“Track record” is an incredibly poor indicator for the lack of a government backdoor, thinking back to Snowden, for example.

Re: Telegram founder Pavel Durov arrested at French airport

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Post by [deleted] »

chucke1992 wrote: post #20
codedokode wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If he intentionally cooperated with criminals then it is one thing. But if someone posted something illegal, and nobody reported this, then it obviously is not Durov's fault. If you are too lazy to report illegal content then you should arrest yourselves first.

Basically as he did not provide access to the encrypted messages and communication in Telegram, they accused him for supporting the criminals. That's all to it. It is basically the part of the current politics in EU where they are trying to force access to all encrypted traffic across devices.

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Re: Telegram founder Pavel Durov arrested at French airport

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Post by Simulacra »

greatgib wrote: post #2

I did not see the info anywhere else, but it was just broadcasted by the main French tv channel. Pavel Durov, the Telegram founder was just arrested out of his airplane in the Bourget airport in France near Paris. There is no info about why exactly he was arrested but it looks like that French police had a warrant for him. But it looks like it is because that he is accused of being an accessory of a lot of things lik…

Feels very much like a political crime, how soon until Mark Zuckerberg is arrested for WhatsApp?

Re: Telegram founder Pavel Durov arrested at French airport

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Post by EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK »

Oras wrote: post #10
chad1n wrote: post #3

From Telegram sources: >Pavel Durov faces up to 20 years in prison in France. The trial will take place very soon – sources close to the investigation. In addition to drug trafficking, he is accused of collaborating with an organized crime group, covering up for pedophiles, fraud and money laundering. I don't know how reliable this is, but I've seen in 3-4 sources that he's arrested for terrorism, child abuse, drug t…

If it is an encrypted service, how would the company censor and tackle these issues? I’m asking from a technical standpoint.

It is not encrypted by default. By default, everything goes through Telegram servers and can be read there.

Re: Telegram founder Pavel Durov arrested at French airport

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Post by thamer »

From the article, that's a massive pile of charges they're dumping onto him, all apparently because people use Telegram in ways the French state disapproves of?

> Why was he under threat of a search warrant? > The justice department considers that the lack of moderation, lack of cooperation with law enforcement, and the tools offered by Telegram (disposable number, cryptocurrencies, etc.) make him an accomplice to drug trafficking, pedo-criminal offenses and fraud.

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