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A $10k stipend is available for anyone moving to Cumberland, MD

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Re: A $10k stipend is available for anyone moving to Cumberland, MD

#101
post #85

Work from home. Commute into a DC metro based office once a month. You could even drive to Martinsburg and take the Marc. Sounds doable.

> Commute into a DC metro based office once a month Not even once. Have you ever driven in DC metro? No thanks.

From Cumberland, you can take the Amtrak. It's a 3 1/2 hour ride, you can eat on the train, and there's no traffic.

$38 for a round-trip ticket.

Re: A $10k stipend is available for anyone moving to Cumberland, MD

#102

Maryland is so bad they need to pay you 10k to move there. I used to live in Nova and crossing into Maryland was always a drag.

Cumberland has more in common with everything west of the Shenandoah than any part of Maryland you likely drove to.

Re: A $10k stipend is available for anyone moving to Cumberland, MD

#103
I've personally enjoyed that kind of offer. My work is remote, my family isn't.

Not living in the US myself, but done similar in EU.

Living outside large cities is a plus factor these days. You can afford a house, commodities tend to be cheaper or you just grow them yourself. Kids go to a local school where you know everyone else, they make strong friendships and grow healthy in nature.

Re: A $10k stipend is available for anyone moving to Cumberland, MD

#104

Mining towns are one of the examples of human hubris and stupidity I can't get my head around. If you build something in a shitty place just because there is a single resource you can sell, and everything else you have to import, then what do you expect will happen when said resource dries up? These places were meant for people to go temporarily, make serious money, and then go back to the city or countryside to buil…

In the olden days, these towns wouldn't pay you money, they would pay you scrip issued by the mining company[0]. This could only be used at company-operated stores, so miners were imprisoned in the towns. Moving back literally wasn't an option for the people that worked there, but if there was no other jobs around, where else could you go?

[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_scrip

Re: A $10k stipend is available for anyone moving to Cumberland, MD

#105
post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When the railroad was the internet, it was really the Silicon Valley of its day. Really makes you think.

I had been thinking about looking at history from the lens of information technology. China is an interesting example, in that it was so well ahead of the curve until around 1700s. In the 1800s, when telegraphs were connecting the Western world together, the Qing dynasty China would not have been able to participate unless pictographs could be encoded as easily as letters (let alone the century of uprisings, rebellio…

I have good news re: information flow rates

Re: A $10k stipend is available for anyone moving to Cumberland, MD

#106
I suspect these programs are mostly an attempt to claw back some people lost to the brain-drain that the region has been experiencing for decades. $10k over 5 years is not enough to seriously convince most people with no ties to the area to relocate there.

I have family roots in Cumberland and the nearby areas of West Virginia and MD and I still wouldn't consider moving back. But, if you still have a good relationship with family in the city and were already considering the move, this offer might look more compelling.

I believe Vermont also had a similar program for several years - offering a similar amount of money for people to move and work there in VT.

Re: A $10k stipend is available for anyone moving to Cumberland, MD

#107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, but problem Cumberland has same problem as rest of Appalachia, it's geography isn't very good. Mountain areas make everything 10x times harder to build. Let's say some big software company wanted to build second HQ. Even if Cumberland was attractive in workforce, education options and so forth, the architects would say "Building your HQ2 is going to be rough. There isn't enough flat land, flooding could be prob…

If there was an economy worth building for, the geography wouldn't be a blocker. Look at Seattle, Oakland, or the Hollywood hills. They're all built on rugged, mountainous terrain just as difficult as the Appalachians, but they don't suffer the same issues attracting wealth because their economic situation is so different. In fact, each of them has the opposite problem of demand to build vastly outstripping permissio…

>Look at Seattle, Oakland, or the Hollywood hills. They're all built on rugged, mountainous terrain just as difficult as the Appalachians, but they don't suffer the same issues attracting wealth because their economic situation is so different.

Wrong. Seattle, Oakland and Los Angeles are mostly built on much flatter parts of those areas. California entire geography is about "Hey, check out these massive valleys or coastal land we can build in." Same thing with Washington State, Seattle is in between Cascades and Olympics where there is all this flat land to build on. Yes, they running out of land and building into mountains now. That problem is like having FAANG scaling problems. It sucks but it's good/manageable problem to have and you have massive checkbooks to help solve it.

Have you been to Appalachia? It's not on the coast and does not have these benefits. If you want to compare it to West Coast areas, it's more like Sierra Nevada. Inland Mountains with only small valleys to build infrastructure in.

Re: A $10k stipend is available for anyone moving to Cumberland, MD

#108

I've personally enjoyed that kind of offer. My work is remote, my family isn't. Not living in the US myself, but done similar in EU. Living outside large cities is a plus factor these days. You can afford a house, commodities tend to be cheaper or you just grow them yourself. Kids go to a local school where you know everyone else, they make strong friendships and grow healthy in nature.

As anything else in life it's an individual balance. Knowing everyone can be as much a disadvantage; commodities can be cheaper but your earning potential can also be lower. The nearest airport could be several hours drive, and the only school around where all kids go sounds great until your kid gets bullied.

Re: A $10k stipend is available for anyone moving to Cumberland, MD

#109
post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like a place I wouldn't mind working if I can find a remote position again. I'm a big introvert, and I would like to move somewhere more greener (getting tired of living in the middle of a bland hot dessert)

At some point, many people start thinking about things like access to good healthcare, various types of trades, ability to travel without it being a huge hassle, etc. Doesn't mean you need to live right around a big city but I doubt I would want every task or appointment to be a big undertaking.

Healthcare is huge. It's amazing how terrible access to good care is in many rural areas. It's something people often overlook but it's just so important.

Re: A $10k stipend is available for anyone moving to Cumberland, MD

#110
post #64

Extrinsic monetary incentives are among the worst ways to stimulate growth. Anyone who would uproot their life for $10k is likely not the right personality to restore prosperity. Other strategies have worked to gentrify depressed neighborhoods, like attracting bohemians or entrepreneurs with lower rents and tax relief, based on a strict qualification process.

It's not just the 10K, it's an advertisement for low-cost homes, e.g. https://www.zillow.com/cumberland-md/?searchQueryState=%7B%2...
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