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A $10k stipend is available for anyone moving to Cumberland, MD

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Re: A $10k stipend is available for anyone moving to Cumberland, MD

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Post by nroets »

ta988 wrote: post #24
ckcheng wrote: post #9

From the linked page: > The package, offering up to $20,000 is comprised of $10,000 in relocation cash, PLUS up to $10,000, dollar for dollar match, for approved renovations on an existing home, OR for a down payment on a newly constructed home within City limits. Not “A $10k stipend is available for anyone moving to Cumberland, MD” as the submission title says currently , which sounded like a basic income.

Exactly. And they are going to reassess your property because you did renovations and get more than the $20k they gave you over time. Not even talking about the local taxes if you get a job there.

If that's case, I'm sure proper economic modeling will show that the $20k+administrative burden is better spent on reducing taxes for everyone in Cumberland.

Re: A $10k stipend is available for anyone moving to Cumberland, MD

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Post by samstave »

fragmede wrote: post #59
samstave wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe youre not familiar with Qwest Communications? Man does SV have stories to tell that will be lost to us old BOFH ilk: Qwest communications came about when the railroad realized they had rights to the easement lanes on either side of ALL their train tracks, that allowed them to basically do anything they wanted with that strip of land. So Qwest Communications was born to run fiber along all the tracks and built a…

You missed the part where the Qwest refused to participate in illegal surveillance and the NSA destroyed the company for it. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2007/10/qwest-ceo-nsa-punished...

Sorry - Yeah - actually I regret that as I have a humongous amount of /r/conspiracy history in my head - and I forgot that was the real reason.

Re: A $10k stipend is available for anyone moving to Cumberland, MD

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Post by bongodongobob »

op00to wrote: post #23
xeromal wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With Starlink, this question is getting less important. Loads of my family in N. Georgia have started using it and it's crazy how much better it is than the local competition

Starlink still sucks for remote work. Every time the satellites switch there is a slight disconnection, causing interruption to Zoom meetings.

Our company uses it for entire construction job sites, it's perfectly fine.

Re: A $10k stipend is available for anyone moving to Cumberland, MD

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Post by tonymet »

Extrinsic monetary incentives are among the worst ways to stimulate growth. Anyone who would uproot their life for $10k is likely not the right personality to restore prosperity.

Other strategies have worked to gentrify depressed neighborhoods, like attracting bohemians or entrepreneurs with lower rents and tax relief, based on a strict qualification process.

Re: A $10k stipend is available for anyone moving to Cumberland, MD

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Post by samstave »

forvelin wrote: post #60
samstave wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I got down boted -- but I was making the point that CUmberland didnt even do a fn GPT splat at an attempt to market this. Heck - any retire-age level techie person with a passsive income/ability to do things remote etc could take this up But the 20K to live there for five years, and youre required to put 10K of that toward a house that must be >150K Here are all the listing on Zillow for houses 150K to 200K in/…

you got downvotes because your replies lack manners.

I'm not responsible for whatever tone you put on my post in your internal monologue's voice.

Being starkly the only one who points out how weird it is that there was no reason for why would even want to consider this offer, and the unappealing rules for which this is controlled -- its a weird endeavor for this town, and weird post for HN.

Is stating such lacking of manners? Or are emotional triggers > discussion of the content posted?

@Debo - I was talking about the content of the freaking Cumberland website and their offer.

Whatever - defend this absolutely atrocious offer, my comment being downvoted doesnt make the offer any better, nor it presentation.

What a weird thread

Re: A $10k stipend is available for anyone moving to Cumberland, MD

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Post by dragontamer »

trollbridge wrote: post #48
op00to wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many trains a day?

CUM has a train headed for DC show up once a day at 9:30am. Takes 3½ hours, which is about an hour longer than driving. In the other direction to Pittsburgh leaves at 7:30pm and takes 4½ hours, more than 2 hours longer than driving.

The idea of DC to NYC being roughly as far away as Maryland to DC is kinda funny to me.

I guess that's just how the panhandle panhandles.

Re: A $10k stipend is available for anyone moving to Cumberland, MD

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Post by deadlydose »

samstave wrote: post #50
zoklet-enjoyer wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This could be attractive to people like my brother and his girlfriend. His job is remote and she's going to school for an art degree, mostly into ceramics and wood turning. They love the outdoors and this would be a good spot for them.

Yeah, I got down boted -- but I was making the point that CUmberland didnt even do a fn GPT splat at an attempt to market this. Heck - any retire-age level techie person with a passsive income/ability to do things remote etc could take this up But the 20K to live there for five years, and youre required to put 10K of that toward a house that must be >150K Here are all the listing on Zillow for houses 150K to 200K in/…

> didnt even do a fn GPT splat

Do us a favor and run your comments through it next time. And drop the whole crybaby "bots" crap.

Re: A $10k stipend is available for anyone moving to Cumberland, MD

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Post by stackskipton »

radpanda wrote: post #22

As a native Marylander I always find myself forgetting about Cumberland, which is a shame. As someone who has mostly lived in and around Baltimore, you head west to Frederick (aka Fredneck) for the small city in the middle of rural farmland. If you keep heading west you get to Hagerstown which feels way out there in farm country. And if you keep heading west you eventually move from farms to mountains and you hit Cum…

Sure, but problem Cumberland has same problem as rest of Appalachia, it's geography isn't very good. Mountain areas make everything 10x times harder to build.

Let's say some big software company wanted to build second HQ. Even if Cumberland was attractive in workforce, education options and so forth, the architects would say "Building your HQ2 is going to be rough. There isn't enough flat land, flooding could be problematic, fiber companies are screaming about the trenching" Not to mention, where are you going to put all your workers since housing will run into same problem. So if you wanted to stay in MD, somewhere like Hagerstown or Salisbury would be a better choice since usable land is plentiful.

Re: A $10k stipend is available for anyone moving to Cumberland, MD

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Post by robotnikman »

j_m_b wrote: post #4

I just got back from a visit with family in Cumberland. It's the epitome of rust belt. What used to be a thriving manufacturing area has become an abandoned service-sector economy with low-wage jobs. Property values are dirt cheap, even for nice houses. There isn't much nearby, you have to travel hours from Pittsburgh to even get there by plane. Tales of theft of items like power tools from relatively remote farms ar…

Sounds like a place I wouldn't mind working if I can find a remote position again. I'm a big introvert, and I would like to move somewhere more greener (getting tired of living in the middle of a bland hot dessert)

Re: A $10k stipend is available for anyone moving to Cumberland, MD

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Post by soared »

tonymet wrote: post #64

Extrinsic monetary incentives are among the worst ways to stimulate growth. Anyone who would uproot their life for $10k is likely not the right personality to restore prosperity. Other strategies have worked to gentrify depressed neighborhoods, like attracting bohemians or entrepreneurs with lower rents and tax relief, based on a strict qualification process.

Yeah many of the other similar incentives provide free land, housing/internet/etc benefits too
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